Attraction and PUA all an illusion

[Delta]

i think the crux is GETTING OUT THERE. i think that the orig poster is right on about that.

but considering there are guys who are REALLY GREAT PEOPLE, successful at their jobs, good at what they do and YET can't get a woman if their lives depended on it - there IS such a thing as a PERSONALITY that is attractive to women AND a PERSONALITY that is REPULSIVE. ATTITUDE COUNTS and the "mind games" can REALLY make a difference to some people.

i think a lot of the PUA stuff is just trying to break down the OVERALL ATTITUDE into discrete chunks.

things like CONFIDENCE, SWAGGER (****Y FUNNY), DOMINANCE (no timidity or fearfulness or even shyness - this is DEATH)....

these aren't bs traits... and without them, you could be a great, successful guy but without a girl. there have been MANY IMPORTANT FIGURES IN HISTORY - people who have SHAPED our thinking and the VERY WORLD ITSELF... yet they were AFCs. make no mistake, being a substantial human being does not automatically make you a ladies man. AND!!! CONVERSELY, being GREAT WITH WOMEN does not necessarily make you a worthwhile human being!

AHHHHHH!!! and THAT - THAT is the thing that most of us want to figure out. if the above is TRUE... if one is not equal to the other, then WHAT is the formula the wretch of a man uses to get chicks? if we can bottle that, then combined with everything already going for us, we could rule the world.

also, a lot of the PUA stuff is about human psychology - particularly female psychology and i think that's pretty valid. a lot of AFCs "respect" women so much that they actually make them out to be more that what they really are - ANIMALS. and just like any animal, they have behavioral traits and ingrained instincts. just like guy animals chase big t!ts and a nice a$$ because of the fertility it signifies to our lizard brains, girls chase attributes in men. and if you exhibit the wrong kinds of attributes, you become the male equivalent of the "fat chick".

yes, a lot of the stuff out there is a moneymaking vehicle... so invest wisely, avoid rip offs and get what you can for free on places like this forum.

i still think one of the best resources is TRADITIONAL BOOKS and a really great place to start is ROBERT GREEN - 48 Laws of Power and The Art of Seduction.

delta

 

[AngelusPUA]

but considering there are guys who are REALLY GREAT PEOPLE, successful at their jobs, good at what they do and YET can't get a woman if their lives depended on it - there IS such a thing as a PERSONALITY that is attractive to women AND a PERSONALITY that is REPULSIVE. ATTITUDE COUNTS and the "mind games" can REALLY make a difference to some people.

These really great people aren't the people I am talking about...... What I mean is

-A guy that is handsome and/or Sexy
-A guy that knows how to dress
-Wit
-Confidence
-Class
-Charm
-Danger
-Mystery

If a guy has those qualities can get any woman they want. That is what I mean when I say be a man, I am not talking about “really great people” I am talking about becoming a man that women desire. Instead of using C+F and NLP you should work on those qualities.

 

[Delta]

ah. gotcha.

right. i'd agree with that list of qualities. but it's a tough list. just confidence alone can be a deal breaker for a lot of guys... even guys who have lots to be confident about.

for them, you don't think NLP (and other subconscious/hypnotic/meditation stuff) can help? inasmuch as a lot of times, our minds are so fd up that they undermine our very lives, i think that sometimes we gotta mindf it back to gain control.

and you're right that the qualities themselves are the essential thing.

but i'm a big believer in 'fake it till you make it' too and i'm of the opinion that a lot of this PUA stuff is nothing but just trying to go backwards from behavior to quality... fake it till you make it.

delta

p.s. i'm extremely dangerous behind the wheel and mysterious as all hell when i do approaches in dark alleys... but it doesn't really seem to be getting me anywhere...

 

[AngelusPUA]

hahahaha, I don't belive in the fake till you make it. I think it's much easier to get straight to the point.

 

[Mr. Unique]

hahahaha, I don't belive in the fake till you make it. I think it's much easier to get straight to the point.

I think you're full of ****.

 

[zerocelcius]

Na you don't need tricks or a personality just look good, have confidence, and wear a Uniform! :yes:

 

[Analytic]

You see seeing threads like this all the time about the so called "DJ" putting down PUA. Make em laught, be confidence, be funny they say. If you had read some PUA book then you would know the reason for the technique. Alot of people don't know how to be funny or how to be charming, they probably do know but only but they need the confidence to pull that out. Routines and canned lines are like training wheels that tells you exackly what you need to do and say so you have success and success breed confidence. It also teaches you how woman thinks, act and most important of all it makes an approuch easier when you know exackly what to say.