"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Attracting women in school, in your classes?

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Ok this semester is about halfway over and I can already tell that there will not be any action for me this year.

I have been doing a lot of reading and I haven't been able to find anything on how to make a classroom pickup. The classroom pickup is obviously very different from the club or street pick up because there is a good chance you will be spending 3-4 months with the girl if you both keep going to class. Also you wouldn't be complete strangers. Which I don't know if that is a good or bad thing yet.

The questions that I am struggling with right now is; How to do a classroom pick up and how much time after the semester starts do I have to try a pick up?

One thing I've noticed is that it is very easy to build comfort with a girl when you are in a class together. (BTW did anybody notice that together can be broken up in to "to get her"?) But as for building attraction that is something I have no idea how to do.

Has anybody successfully made a date or more with a girl in one of there classes and if so how? Would anybody have any tips or advice?
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Maxtro said:
Ok this semester is about halfway over and I can already tell that there will not be any action for me this year.
not a good attitude to have! be confident first off.

anyway, there are a lot of ice breakers. try smiling at them for starters. once a test comes around, you can talk about it, and once you get real confident, ask them if they want to study for it with you. or if there is a paper due, you can read over each other's work.

also, if there is something funny about the class, that is a nice ice breaker. i started talking to a CUTE girl in my class because there is an obnoxious guy in our class who never stops talking and making stupid comments! so we clicked over that.
 

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I agree with ^^^

Are you in college or highschool?

Just do the ice break say soemthing about school....after that next time conversate about diffrent subjects because school can be boring.
 

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I have no problem talking to girls in my classes. There are two very attractive girls that I talk to quite regularly in different classes. We are basically classroom buddies. There comfort level with me is quite high, there interest levels are not. None of the girls give off any IOI. Actually no girls do and I know it's because of something that I have not or that I may have done. I can almost click with just about any girl but I can't her juices flowing if you know what I mean. In the end I just get them bored.

I'm 26 so hopefully I'm out of high school :crackup:

One thing that is really bugging me is that one of the very hot girls that I talk to has since moved her sitting place to be "in the sun" and now we don't talk anymore. That is an obvious sign that she has become bored with me and no longer wants to talk to me.
 

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Try going to social events like parties and bars frequented by the students and run into them there.

Maybe they are losing interest because you are revealing too much about yourself?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't advice classroom/work "pick-ups" because I've had bad experiences, but if you feel like you can deal with it if something goes wrong, then just make a move.
 

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I have never known of any parties or social events in High School or parties. I don't even know if anybody has Jr. College parties. No bars in my city and I don't like the bar scene.

As for giving away information about me self. That doesn't happen any more. After some bad experiences years ago I give very little info about myself. The average conversation is 80% her 20% me and I end up knowing all the basics about her. I'm like a reporter :(

The main question I have is how do guys get girls into them? I talk in class, I try to act and feel confident around them. I'm not very funny though and I don't have a clue how to flirt.
 

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I just talk to everybody that sits around me. A lot of the people at my uni are so isolated that you have to be a DJ just to have any sort of conversation with them. I talk to guys, the hot girls, and ugly girls. You need to be charming and funny, but don't be a tryhard or a comedian.

Also, when you contribute to discussion in class, speak confidently and clearly, and make sure you say something intelligent. It will impress the smart girls, I promise, and they're the best in bed. :D

Once you have some sort of interest built up, the trickiest part is closing. For me, closing is situational. One close I did this semester was just asking a girl where the best happy hour was, then inviting her to come along. Another was just writing on a piece of paper what a girl was doing after class, passing it to her, then inviting her out to hang out. Another was just offering to take out a girl and show her a good time because "I hate to see a sweet girl sad" (she just broke up with her borefriend).

Like shooting fish in a barrel.
 

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Maxtro said:
I have never known of any parties or social events in High School or parties. I don't even know if anybody has Jr. College parties. No bars in my city and I don't like the bar scene.
Then try clubs and student organizations at your school.
 

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Nice post Serialized3. Yeah most people in class don't talk to each other. In a room of 30ish people there may only be 2 or 3 conversations going. Meaning out of 30 people only 2-6 are actually talking before class. I hate sitting in silence so I try to talk to the girls around me.

I'm a little saddened that the girl in one of my classes changed her seat her reason for moving may be valid because she is from Hawaii and doesn't like the cold but I can only talk to her when I sit next to her. I'm wondering if I should move over one row to be next to her again. I'm 90% sure that she has a BF since she said "my boyfriend" when she was telling a story / giving an example in class but I haven't called her on it. She is by far the hottest girl in the room and I am now, well more like was the only person who talked to her. I have so much in common with her it's almost scary. Heck I just found out that we both do our homework in the library before class starts. I don't get any IOI's from her and I am certain she has no interest in me or else I would have made a move by now.

I'm like the primary speaker in class discussions, there are like 5 people who talk in that class. I'm #1 the girl I mentioned is actually #2 and there are a couple others. I bring up good points and stuff and I should be known in class.

I'm still scared of closing. I've only attempted to close once with a girl in a class a few years back but I've never talked to her in class and she rejected me with a seemingly valid reason as to why not. For some reason rejection still scares the crap out of me. Is it still a rejection if she says no when you know she has a boyfriend?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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