"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Attracting Shy/Virigin/Christian Women

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I want to attract quality girls for Long Term Relationships. I am not really interested in one night stands, etc as I've had my fair shares of those, but have never been in a very serious relationship. However, if I decide to go for a LTR with a girl, I have the bar set pretty high, and usually these girls are cute, intelligent, and virgins. These girls don't necessarily need to be Christian, but they usually end up that way (b/c i go to a christian school).

Anyway, all this don juan stuff works great. I've been using it for awhile now, but it can't seem to attract the quality girls that I described above: shy, hopeless romantic types. Some guys dont like clingy types, but honestly, if I am going to be in a LTR with I girl, I don't mind the clinginess. How do you attract girls like this since negging/****y-funny tend to not work. I would ecspecially appreciate advice from people who have succeeded with this in the past.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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For attracting real women, as opposed to hors...

1. Go a little slower
2. Be less overtly sexual (Still be masculine and strong, tho)
3. Don't expect much in the way of IOIs. That means you will have to be more aggressive and put yourself emotionally out on a limb more often
 

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Ok, I go to catholic school. I am in same boat.

I find ****y funny works well.

PATIENCE, I have been around non catholic school girls. They warm up to u in half the time

There signals are much more discreet. In my experience they get offended of things like commenting on their ass or something. Just my experience.

just when you think you have lost you find out they are dying to rip your clothes off. Thats my problem, they want me but my low self esteem keeps me from picking up on it and I give up.

So in short be a gentleman DJ. But not AFC. Kinda hard to couple together. Ahh I am bad at explaining

Anyone share similar experiences?
 

Snow Plowman

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Obsidian said:
For attracting real women, as opposed to hors...

1. Go a little slower
2. Be less overtly sexual (Still be masculine and strong, tho)
3. Don't expect much in the way of IOIs. That means you will have to be more aggressive and put yourself emotionally out on a limb more often
Fuk that...hors or no hors you can escalate the exact same way. It's whether you choose to go that fast or not.

Anyhow, the key is dominance and escalating from the start. If you aren't getting her comfortable with touching then you're fuked. The thing is calibrate the sexual things that you say. Don't tell her a story about your 5 hour orgy, instead you'd probably talk about a story where you seen a lady slip on the floor.

In my experience I tried pursuing a hb that was christian and a virgin. (I don't pickup virgins anymore) An this girl by the 3rd day I was touching her breast and we were pretty touchy feely. She'd compliment and chase all that good stuff. The thing is before I even opened her she was a real shy girl, but it really comes down to them being comfortable with you.

No excuse though these girls can get fuked its just are you willing to put in the time. LMR and the tightness, all that stuff.
 

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Read the Book of Pook.

This is why I'm always saying that you should forget the seduction material, and focus on a your NATURAL game, because your natural game is going to have the same results as seduction material, BUT with the added bonus that you can attract more quality girls and you can hold down a relationship if you want it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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my ex gf was christian and she was dirty. one day her parents weren't home and she lifted up her skirt and told me to dive in. - she was a virgin btw.
 
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Ya im in the same situation im workin on trying to get a LTR with, yes a tight, intelligent girl, IMO an 8-9. Go PAINFULLY slow, especially is you actually have feelings for her. This type take a little more patients, drama, and romance. I cant really put into words how to do it just no that its NOT easy what so ever, and you have to put yourself emotionaly out there more. Also they are way more confusing to deal with, their signals are very under the radar. Good thing is if you are what they are looking for its gunna take alot to screw up everything completely, but then again its take alot to get to there.
 
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