Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Attempting Pick Up Tomorrow: Please Critique

Colinski282

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A bit of back up info first of all. During my routine of starting conversations i met a girl who still has my attention. The first day i met her i found her real easy to talk to. I later gave her my name and she immediatlely asked for mine. The next day I saw her she threw a one liner at me as she passed by on her way to class. The second day i saw her she threw another smart ass comment at me. I often see her chillin by herlself.

So anyways next time I see her Ima go spark up a convo saying soemthing like "You always stand around by yourself. What you think your too good for everybody?" Ill talk to her a minute or two and when im ready to ask her out Ill say "You know what? I wanna talk to you tonight, Give me your number." Or How about "You know what? I wanna finish this conversation, Can i Call You Tonight?"

Which one do you like, Which way would you ask her out.
Critique Please
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"You always stand around by yourself. What you think your too good for everybody?"

Please, please, please don't say this.

****y and funny does not equate to "mean," and I doubt you can pull that off without sounding mean.

Here's what you should say to her:

"Hi."

Don't have a whole conversation planned out. You'll sound creepy and needy unless it is a highly internalized pattern.

Just lean back and talk to the women slowly, deeply, confidently, and without ums, ahs, and buts.

Make eye contact and kino where appropriate.

That's your assignment... and that's more than a great start.
 

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In other news, just remember she's a human being too.

Don't use phrases or words or anything that you wouldn't use with your guy friends.

I doubt you'd say "I want to end this conversation" to ANYONE.

If you wanted to end the conversation, you'd likely just say, "gotta go - see ya"

Don't be incongurent i.e. act like something you're not. It's a big mistake.
 

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I was thinking and saying "You know what? I wanna finish this conversation, Can i Call You Tonight?" isnt too great. Saying "Tonight "sounds too needy. It will pose no challenge, no mystery. Asking Can i have her number is no good either. Am i going to ask if i can kiss her for the first time? No sir.
 

Alphathree

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Originally posted by Colinski282
I was thinking and saying "You know what? I wanna finish this conversation, Can i Call You Tonight?" isnt too great. Saying "Tonight "sounds too needy. It will pose no challenge, no mystery. Asking Can i have her number is no good either. Am i going to ask if i can kiss her for the first time? No sir.
Dude, stop making things so complicated.

Say, "hey, do you have email?"

Or whatever.

The words dont matter much. I don't know how to get this through your thick skull =) Heh.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You sound too much like a creepy actor.

Just say "hello" and go with the conversation as it comes. At some point during the conversation you should get her phone number but thats the only thing you should have planned out.
 

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You don't have to give her a reason that you want her phone number, or tell her that you're going to call her or when.

Just talk to her, say "well, I gotta go - here, before I go give me your phone number" and have her put it in your phone

I've number closed so many girls this way, it's easy
 

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Don't say 'Ima', say 'I'm going to.'

I'm annoyed, because now I'm starting to emulate guys like you and saying Ima and my inner grammar nerd hates me for it.
 

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How about building a time bridge?

Just say "hey tomorrow I'm going to the library to check some books out, you should come with", if you get a positive reaction go for a # and add "alright, give me your number, ill call you"

Of course I shouldnt need to say this, but replace library books thing with any other activity you're comfortable doing or place youre comfortable going.
 

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it really DOESNT matter what you say. the last # close i did, i was thinking about how to close her. i was soo focused that i even FORGOT HER NAME lol. now when it came down to close i had a buncha good lines that would gaurantee me her #. what ended up happening? the only word that came out of my mouth was......number? out of the blue
and guess what, she gave it to me. it really doesnt matter what you do. you can take your cellphone out and point to it and she will get the meaning.

as for the ****y/funny thing you tried there. i dont see much funny in that or ****y for that matter lol.

think of another way to open it. or just say Hi
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by Alphathree
"You always stand around by yourself. What you think your too good for everybody?"

Please, please, please don't say this.

****y and funny does not equate to "mean," and I doubt you can pull that off without sounding mean.
I could, easy.. Its all in the body language, how you say it. I'm of the opinion that you can literally get away with anything if you say it in the right way.

I'd be standing confidently, have a slight cheeky grin on my face (the sort that looks like you're trying to hold it back, but can't) then raise my eyebrows as I said the last part and give strong eye contact the whole time.

That being saiid though, I'm not sure whether thats a line I would use anyway.. You would need to have a bit of social proof, her seeing you with groups of people a lot and stuff.

All you should do is be walking past, make eye contact, give her a smile and say hi, if shes receptive stop and talk. If not, then keep walking.
 

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Originally posted by iCY
it really doesnt matter what you do. you can take your cellphone out and point to it and she will get the meaning.
:up: :crazy:
 

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Originally posted by arutha
I could, easy.. Its all in the body language, how you say it. I'm of the opinion that you can literally get away with anything if you say it in the right way.

I'd be standing confidently, have a slight cheeky grin on my face (the sort that looks like you're trying to hold it back, but can't) then raise my eyebrows as I said the last part and give strong eye contact the whole time.

That being saiid though, I'm not sure whether thats a line I would use anyway.. You would need to have a bit of social proof, her seeing you with groups of people a lot and stuff.

All you should do is be walking past, make eye contact, give her a smile and say hi, if shes receptive stop and talk. If not, then keep walking.
Dude, I walk around preaching "you can say anything and have it mean anything."

But that's an advanced concept.

This guy is focused on particular lines and particular words. I'm sure YOU could deliver it just fine. I'm sure *I* could deliver it just fine.

But I've never met the OP, so I was being conservative because it's best for him in this case.
 

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Hmmm personally I dont really like the opening.....surely there is other stuff you could say to still be challenging.....I know what I would say but as I have proved to my friends the way I say something compared to other people can be different, anywayz the bigger concern is your close. my advice would be just something like hey I have gotta go.......whats your number? be direct chances are she knows why you are talking to her so why hide it? Also don't ask her if you can call her or tell her when you are going to call just take her number and go......easy
 

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You guys are right, i absorbed all the info you guys have given. Thank You. I ditched the routine i set up and just did my thing. Although she didnt give up her number, i went on to ask for another chik's number and got that one.

1 for 2 for today.
Thanks for showing me to stop being so damn complicated. Iread up on positive body language on the main site and that helped me alot.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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