At what point does a girl go from being perfect angel to a b*tch?

[big weezy]

This has been bothering me for a while. At what point do girls turn from being perfect angels when things are going well and then complete lying b*tches when things are going bad? Is it that point where their interest level has dropped?

I have been in situations now where seemingly good behaved girls turn into complete liars where they lack any integrity. I'm only dating these girls they're not actually my gf so I don't know if the rules are different. Am I taking this too seriously?

I feel as if I'm having a crisis of confidence in my own abilities to judge a good woman. I look at their actions and when things are going well they're good but when things are going bad they completely turn. For instance from the start I'll see that a girl is quite secretive and likes to meet up with male friends for coffee. But then it gets to the stage where she starts lying about who she's seeing. Is lying acceptable if you are only dating a girl and her IL has dropped? Do you need to let things slide or is this a sign of a low quality attention wh0re? Bear in mind her interest level has dropped significantly, should I be cutting them some slack?

 

[Aiken_Drum]

Well, I don't think lying is an indicator of interest (or lack of).

I've lied to girls I cared a lot about, and lied to those I didn't, so my guess is that women are not that different in that aspect.

Maybe she always wanted to do other guys (you mentioned she was being secretive and seeing other guys), but she started getting more paranoid, or hide it with more elaborated lies?

Lying is a lack of respect and should never be accepted without punishment.

But what's important here is: are you willing to accept a girl who might be seeing other guys? Maybe you do, nothing wrong with that. I think it would be a good idea to clarify things between you too.

 

[Aiken_Drum]

Sorry, double post!

 

[big weezy]

Well, I don't think lying is an indicator of interest (or lack of).

I've lied to girls I cared a lot about, and lied to those I didn't, so my guess is that women are not that different in that aspect.

Maybe she always wanted to do other guys (you mentioned she was being secretive and seeing other guys), but she started getting more paranoid, or hide it with more elaborated lies?

Lying is a lack of respect and should never be accepted without punishment.

But what's important here is: are you willing to accept a girl who might be seeing other guys? Maybe you do, nothing wrong with that. I think it would be a good idea to clarify things between you too.

But you said yourself you've lied, do you condone lying?

I hate dishonesty and much rather hear the truth than be blind sighted with lies.

What kind of punishment should I give if she lies, I assume a removal of my attention for a few days till she apologises and begs a bit?

My issue is if she's already lost interest and if you ask her if she's seeing so and so guy cos you've heard rumors if she lies to you and you find out later you were right then I should next the girl. But if you were only dating and she isn't your gf she does not owe me the truth but do I need to accept women lie and cut them some slack?

I can't expect everyone to be as honest as me.

 

[Aiken_Drum]

I believe that why you lie is very important. If you are lying out of weaknesses, it's wrong, especially for you.
Some situations cannot be resolved by honesty. Or at least I don't know how to.
But that's my problem anyhow...

To go back to yours, I believe that only you can know the answer to that. It's obviously very important to you that the girl you are dating is honest.
To me, it's not that important, because as a recovering lier to women, I know it's not personal and it doesn't imply that they don't care or are not interested in me.

But if it's important to you, you should tell them you are very pissed off and break contact until they return to you and apologize.

Keep in mind that they might not come back. This move, if done correctly can amp the interest level, but it might fail as well.

You need to remember, though, that a real man wouldn't be with a woman that does not meet his standards.

 

[Captain]

When they realise they you are a chump and will put up with their bad behaviour. Or when they either just don't like you or lose attraction for you, and just don't care what you think of them.