"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

Asking to be friends w/ benefits, does it ever work?

ScrewIt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 11, 2004
Messages
1,769
Reaction score
2
Anyway this thought never occured to me until my friend brought it up. He said one time he flat out asked this girl if she wanted to be friends w/ benefits, of course she had a bf so she declined.

I got this co-worker in the office who i have a pretty good idea wants to **** me if she could....and if we werent co-workers i could easily get into the dating scene with her.

She seems to like me, so hell why not? hell she lives alone and has no social life so it would be perfect.

any of you ever flat out asked and had a good reaction?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

flyinshark

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Mar 21, 2005
Messages
481
Reaction score
3
Location
Canada
I never asked or did that before, but i have friends who have, and it worked for them.

However, make sure she is ready for such a question from your part. IMO, she must be pretty open about her sexuality and not easily offended by related talk. She also needs to have a bit of a b!tchy attitude inside, or else she may take it the wrong way and you could lose a friend. From what i know, good girls don't find acceptable being a friend with benefits, so i'd say be careful.
 
Last edited:

JazzPimpNYC

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 18, 2004
Messages
60
Reaction score
0
In my experience the friends-with-bennys thing has never worked, or at least until I decided to let them go. You have to understand that women are extremely emotional and sometimes irrational when it comes to relationships. She has to be a ****ing ***** in order for there to be a no-strings-attached thing happening.
 

ScrewIt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 11, 2004
Messages
1,769
Reaction score
2
no she's not a *****, she's a good girl. in fact she's a christian church goer/ bible follower.

i should probably forget about it.
 

Magico

Don Juan
Joined
May 7, 2005
Messages
99
Reaction score
0
Location
Europe
In that case it's likely she freaks out on you.

It worked for my friend with a couple of milfs, one 7 and one fugly.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

Bonhomme

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 2, 2002
Messages
3,956
Reaction score
16
Location
Land of the Ruins
Subtlety and action

If you want to trigger the 'ol ASD (anti-slut defense), just ask.

Better to make your intentions understood with action. Flirting, teasing, working her personal space, kino, etc., and drop hints that you're not looking for a relationship.

If she's got brain one, and she's game, she'll get the picture, and run with it.
 

cruzy

Don Juan
Joined
May 11, 2005
Messages
19
Reaction score
0
Age
51
I have a FB who was up front with me. I was married when we first got together and he had a 7 yr LTR. He said he was polyamorous. I felt refreshed that the boundaries were established ahead of time so that there wouldn't be a mess and false expectation. Guess what, 8 months later, I am still with this guy because he is honest. There are times when he agrees to be monogamous with his LTR, even though it only lasts 2 weeks or so :), and I don't get pissed or diss him because he is honest with me. In addition, I don't feel bad about his gf because I have met her before and she knows what's going on. Frankly, I think honesty is the best policy. It's when I get deceived by men that I get really pissed off. I lose respect for them and it's over. If I find out a guy who claims to want monogamy has other girls on the side, even if I have other guys on the side, I feel as though I have to dump the guy because if I don't, I am telling him that it's okay to lie to me.

You may lose this one because she may be looking for a LTR. But, there are so many fish in the sea, why not get into a good situation that doesn't end in disaster by being honest about your intentions? A good DJ isn't out to hurt women.

I have also noticed that the guys who have been honest up front end up becoming my pals too and if either of us decide to enter into a monogamous situation with someone else, we end things on good terms. If I feel like calling them in between relationships, I do and they aren't all weird because they know what my true intention is. If they want to call me in between, I have no problem with that and don't mind being a rebound, especially if they have been there for me in that capacity in the past. If I call and they are in a LTR, they let me know what their status is. But we always keep it open and are respectful, and usually I hear from them a few weeks later when things fall apart. I've had FB's that last for years with this method and one that probably would have gone on 6 years if I hadn't moved. When it comes down to it, if they are good in bed, honest with their intentions, and I'm not in a monogamous situation, they are in.
 

PVSSY-EATER

Banned
Joined
Feb 16, 2005
Messages
590
Reaction score
0
Age
43
Location
Michigan
No son, dont ask women ****!!!

tell her you are doing whatever on whatever date and for her azz to meet you there or you will pick her azz up. Got yo kino in, have motafvckin fun, and fvck her later that night. You dont need confirmation from a woman, your inner conviction already gives you this.....I think some people call this...uh, uh....yeah...confidence. You got me.
 

PRMoon

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2003
Messages
3,739
Reaction score
41
Age
45
Location
-777-Vegas-777-
If the only thing you do with a girl is call her, go to her house or yours and have sex then you go about your seperate ways, then you've got a FB. You shouldn't really have to ask becasue you'll just fall into that natural trend anyway with some girls. If you're spending lots of time together and doing things, then you've got an actual friend and there's no turing that tide.

I don't think i'll ever get a FB personally. It's just as easy to have a ONS or something of that nature. Well at least it is for me with my set up anyway. I think it also has something to do with me enjoying "the hunt" more so then "the kill" Sex is on my mind like every other guy but I like the game just as much if not more.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

Francisco d'Anconia

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 10, 2003
Messages
15,481
Reaction score
65
Location
Galt's Gulch
Fvck-buddies are usually established without any verbal acceptance. The people involved understand the situation and nothing is said until one of them requires something that's more substantial.

It is possible to prolong FB status but inevitably the relationship will either radically decrease in frequency or cease altogether. This is why having a few FBs in rotation is a means to extending general FB activity.
 

Jus_LikeCandy

Banned
Joined
May 11, 2005
Messages
214
Reaction score
0
Location
Pennsylvania
Fukc buddies is something that occurs naturally. It isn't verbalized, unless a problem occurs.
There are some women who have trouble dealing with this. Though we like to say we can handle it, we are emotion creatures and it causes problems and misunderstanding.
 

Luscious

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 8, 2002
Messages
840
Reaction score
3
Exactly as the two posters above me said.

You don't ASK to be friends with benefits.

In my case, what happened was I nailed this chick a few times, realized the sex was great, but we didn't get along too well...we didn't really say anything about it, rather, we would just call each other when we needed sex and we would leave a little bit after. Very much so a 'mutual understanding' deal.
 

Maximus_Decimus

Don Juan
Joined
Feb 10, 2003
Messages
183
Reaction score
5
Asking for FB status explicitly will automatically trigger ASD. In the milder case, you will probably get a straight "no." In the more extreme case, you will get a slap in the face.

Typically, we would ask you to read the DJ bible. Unfortunately, the DJ bible is rather lacking with articles on how women behave and think. You should read the following threads and it will give you a general understanding on how women behave socially:

Hitori's post on Social Status:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=70707

Deep Dish's post on the Book of Woman:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=32713&highlight=book

My post on ASD:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=72616


Maximus_Decimus
 

becker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 13, 2003
Messages
1,697
Reaction score
4
Last girl I was with flat out asked to be FWB with me before we really even got into a dating situation. Not sure how serious she was, but all I know is that we ended up in bed together almost every day. Then she didn't want to date anymore, and I suggested the FWB since the sexual stuff was so good. She said no, but with enough prying she always gave in. Eventually though, she told me she regretted doing that stuff with me, and didn't want to do it anymore. Although I'm guessing that with enough influence she'd fall back into it, I backed off for the sake of our friendship. She was starting to say things like she did similar stuff before, and when she felt guilty enough, she cut off all contact with the guy.

One of my most devastating experiences mentally was when a girl I was seeing just suddenly stopped talking to me without any explanation or warning. Never got closure. It still kills me to this day because all I wanted to do was tell her that we could just be friends, but every time I tried to contact her, it made things worse. I never wanted that kind of crap to happen to me again.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

Luscious

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 8, 2002
Messages
840
Reaction score
3
Re: Subtlety and action

Originally posted by Bonhomme
If you want to trigger the 'ol ASD (anti-slut defense), just ask.

Better to make your intentions understood with action. Flirting, teasing, working her personal space, kino, etc., and drop hints that you're not looking for a relationship.

If she's got brain one, and she's game, she'll get the picture, and run with it.
Spot on - read this twice.
 

TillTheEndOfTime

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 4, 2004
Messages
1,930
Reaction score
59
Originally posted by cruzy
When it comes down to it, if they are good in bed, honest with their intentions, and I'm not in a monogamous situation, they are in.
Originally posted by cruzy
It's when I get deceived by men that I get really pissed off. I lose respect for them and it's over.
Oh no! A wh0re losing respect for someone!
 
Top