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Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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Asking her out

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I want to ask a girl (HB 9) out but I don't have the confidence to talk to her. The girl is definately interested because I'm getting IOIs all over the place but I'm afraid she will reject me once she knows I'm interested.

Also, we only see each other for a few minutes each day so there is not really any opertunity to make a connection. Given this, I was thinking my best course of action was to give her a piece of paper with my number on it and just write 'Give me a call'. I believe this could work because she is already interested. However, I do worry that 'Give me a call' is not challenging enough and she will lose attraction for me.

The more challenging alternatives I'm considering are: 'You seem quite nice - give me a call' and the most challenging of all 'Beggars can't be choosers'!

Personally, I'm drawn to 'Beggars can't be chooser' because its the least wussy but I fear it might be too much and could spoil the attraction. What do you guys think is the best of these?
 

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I don't think leaving the ball in her park like that is your best bet. Sure, it may work, but do you really want to be that guy who spends his time anxiously awaiting a phone call he might never get? If she's giving IOIs like you say she is, just put a smile on your face, get in there, make her laugh and get the #.
 

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If you know she's already interested, then what's the big deal in asking her out? Don't make a big deal out of it, because it's not!

Your post here seems kinda self-contradictory. You are getting IOIs from her and you know that she is interested, but for some reason you think that if SHE knows that YOU are interested, she will change her mind? It's fine if she knows you are interested. She already knows you are interested, so why try to hide it? As long as you don't come off as desperate or needy, you'll be fine.

Asking a woman out is not a big deal. Do it enough times and you'll come to realize that (I'm doing Week 5 of bootcamp now, the 'getting a date' part... it's all pretty much clockwork. Too bad my organizational skills are ****. Need to work on that.)

If she percieves you're making a big thing out of it, she's more likely to declane/flake. So make it seem casual, because it is.

Definitely get her number. Don't rely on her to call you, because she won't. Two out of the last three women I left my number with were giving me great IOIs. One looked like she was ready to make out with me on the spot... have yet to hear from any of them.
 
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