"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Asking for phone numbers from internet dates

jacktrade

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Hi,

Do you guys think it's easier to get phone number from an internet date than someone say you meet at a bookstore? I have better luck getting a phone number from someone i met on the internet, and getting from there... Just an observation. But how long should i continue chatting online and talking on the phone before a first real date?? a week, a month? Can i make her develop any attraction towards me from chatting online and stuff? Thanks.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ER!C L!VE

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Jack,

Internet dating is like shooting fish in a barrel. You just gotta learn the steps to doing it correctly.

I talk about it on my board. www.tenderz.net/forum

Basically, you want to talk to the girl for about 10 minutes, make sure that you're both enjoying the conversation and then ask to talk to her on the phone. You send her your phone number and she'll either call you right then or give you her's and tell you to call her instead.

You set up a time and place to meet in public after that. If she's already getting sexual in chat conversation, just ask her to your house.

Cheers!

Eric
www.tenderz.net/forum
 

locrian

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> But how long should i continue chatting online
> and talking on the phone before a first real date??
> a week, a month?

What's worked for me is about 2 or 3 emails (over the course of a few days or a week) and then ask for the number. When you call, keep it short, and ask her out on the first call. Total time from very first email till you see her in person: one to two weeks.

> Can i make her develop any attraction towards me
> from chatting online and stuff?

Yes, by having the confidence to ask for her number and then calling and asking her out instead of spending a month chatting online. You can be funny and attractive online, but being online is for meeting women only, it's not a way of developing attraction.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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It all depends on how good your rapport is with her. If you suck at gaining rapport face to face, you'll probably have some problems online. However, while online you have the ability to perfect your conversational skills that you could use when face to face.
 
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