"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
asking a girl to wash before going down
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I guess a good way to find out would be to finger her one night, then if your fingers aren't all stinky, you're good to go?
D!ck Ramsey
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Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
is this appropriate?
No, it's not. You're acting like a little boy. And you're probably going to be pretty bad at giving oral your first few times anyway, so she is the one doing you a favor. If she stinks, then just finger her, and maybe lick her once or twice. It's not like good oral sex is sticking your entire face up her cvnt. Teasing is pleasing.
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Bible_Belt
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This is the way to go about it.D!ck Ramsey said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Teflon_Mcgee
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But I guess it depends on the relationship.
Obviously after a few dates you probably wouldn't want to ask. But during that time frame she'll probably spend ample time and have great attention to detail while getting ready to go out with you. So then it shouldn't be an issue.
After enough sex there's no reason it should be an uncomforatable subject.
I have no problem telling my girl to hit the shower because I want to go down on her. Of course, at the same time, I've never been bothered by her scent after a day's work.
I love going down. I find it very arousing and so I am prone to do it frequently for my pleasure. But lik Bible Belt says, it's just another trick in the bag and the novelty might wear off for both of you after a while.