I need some thoughts: I've talked to two women so far about my predicament. As of two weeks ago, I woman I've been seeing stopped talking to me. I'd text here and there, and she WOULD return my texts, but doesn't text me anymore. The two women I talked to said I should ask what the deal is, find out what's on her mind if she wants to continue to see me or not. Now I need a guy perspective. I think as men we deserve the right to know. Or should I just move on. I'm afraid this will make me sound needy, but I would like some closure. Any thoughts here?
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Ask her whats going on
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
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Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Based on the information you've given, I'd say she's simply not interested. She is returning your texts to be nice. Women are cowards when it comes to this, and in her mind it is nicer to ignore you than to tell you to stop contacting her.
Ask yourself this question. If you are putting forth the majority of the effort, with little or no effort from her, do you really think she is interested?
Trust me, if she was interested, she would be the one texting you. Why worry about why she just up and stopped talking to you? Move on, find a girl worth your time and effort, one that is INTERESTED. It is also possible that she may be playing games to raise your interest in her, and if you feed into it she will lose attraction anyways, so let her play these games solo, you do not need to involve yourself in them.
One last note, don't ask women for advice about other women. This statement is all over this website and throughout the forums, because it is quite true. A woman will give you the advice that she would use to approach a situation with a man she has been seeing. This woman, being ignored by the man she's involved with, would question his every action and wonder why he all the sudden blew her off. She will call and ask if he likes her anymore, what she can do to make it all better.
It is up to you as a man to be above all this nonsense and move on. Find someone who is actually worth your time and effort.
Ask yourself this question. If you are putting forth the majority of the effort, with little or no effort from her, do you really think she is interested?
Trust me, if she was interested, she would be the one texting you. Why worry about why she just up and stopped talking to you? Move on, find a girl worth your time and effort, one that is INTERESTED. It is also possible that she may be playing games to raise your interest in her, and if you feed into it she will lose attraction anyways, so let her play these games solo, you do not need to involve yourself in them.
One last note, don't ask women for advice about other women. This statement is all over this website and throughout the forums, because it is quite true. A woman will give you the advice that she would use to approach a situation with a man she has been seeing. This woman, being ignored by the man she's involved with, would question his every action and wonder why he all the sudden blew her off. She will call and ask if he likes her anymore, what she can do to make it all better.
It is up to you as a man to be above all this nonsense and move on. Find someone who is actually worth your time and effort.
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How long have you been seeing her?teeitup73 said:
Either way, if she stops talking to you, there's nothing you can do. Closure is a woman's need. Not yours. As a man, you just have to accept that when something is over, it's over.....whether or not you're emotionally prepared for it doesn't matter.
So just take the hit and keep moving. You can't force her to respond. And even if she does respond....come on...she's a woman. You're not going to get any truth out of her. Maybe she's banging another dude.....She won't tell you that. She'll tell you "I've been so busy with work." or "I just needed some time to see how I feel."
This is part of growing up, man. Sometimes women, or just people in your life, disappear. We don't always get answers. You gotta toughen up a bit.
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If a woman is into you she will WANT to communicate with you because you will be on her mind. It's obvious that her lack of communication is the result of a lack of desire to communicate, which also means a lack of desire for you. There is no action you can take to change this so do not waste your time and energy.
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I'm not sure where men learned the idea that if the chick goes suddenly cold on them, when nothing happened, that trying to "Reason" with her will make her come back all strong. I say I'm not sure where people learned this, because it obviously and clearly does NOT work.
Your only play is to do nothing. You have already reached out to her and with lackluster results. Do nothing. It keeps your dignity. If she has any attraction at all, she will eventually contact you.
Your only play is to do nothing. You have already reached out to her and with lackluster results. Do nothing. It keeps your dignity. If she has any attraction at all, she will eventually contact you.
Serg897
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The above responses are correct. No matter how much it pains you, you MUST realize that if a woman wants you she will find a way to get to you. You have already initiated communications that have led nowhere. I agree with Rollos above post - the deal is sealed here.
Trust me, calling her repeatedly, sending emails, getting angry, etc, will get you NOTHING and will only evaporate any remaining interest she may have, solidifying her decision to stop contacting you. I've done this a few times myself. Don't make my mistakes.
Trust me, calling her repeatedly, sending emails, getting angry, etc, will get you NOTHING and will only evaporate any remaining interest she may have, solidifying her decision to stop contacting you. I've done this a few times myself. Don't make my mistakes.
You already got some good advice but I wanna comment on the above tidbit.teeitup73 said:
"...never EVER ask a female for advice on another female! Come to us. We'll tell you "the real truth," not the female-centric version of it."
From here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1867627&postcount=9
Good luck to you my friend.
To many people are worried about how they appear. Sure neediness is not the most attractive thing but as a person the only way you will grow is putting yourself out there and asking this girl what is on her mind.
A guy who has a lot of experience with women will be able to read her covert communication but at your stage it is a mystery so you are left wondering. But one thing you have is gonads between your legs. And when you have them you can do what you like. So I say call her up and ask her, who cares what happens or what she thinks. Shell probably say not interested but at least you will know, learn and can move on a better man.
A guy who has a lot of experience with women will be able to read her covert communication but at your stage it is a mystery so you are left wondering. But one thing you have is gonads between your legs. And when you have them you can do what you like. So I say call her up and ask her, who cares what happens or what she thinks. Shell probably say not interested but at least you will know, learn and can move on a better man.
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why should there be closure?
Dating, like most things in the human sphere, is intuitive. if she's interested, she will show interest. If not, then let it go. It's way to AFCish to keep on texting her, when she clearly does not see you in that way.
Dating, like most things in the human sphere, is intuitive. if she's interested, she will show interest. If not, then let it go. It's way to AFCish to keep on texting her, when she clearly does not see you in that way.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.