"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Ask her out over MSN

BluEyes

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I know, it sounds pretty tacky...But I tried calling her afew times today and she wasn't home.

I've made it a habit of NEVER overanalyzing, but then...making moves with a keyboard isn't really my game.

Abit of background & some stuff that might be meaningful: went to school together, decent friends, abit of kino here and there, she invited me to her birthday party(only non-close friend to be invited), minor sexual kino at the prom afterparty(she wasnt my date).

But I never popped the question. I should have asked her out afew months ago but I was still abit chumpy back then(couldnt pick up clues, no instincts), but hey we've all made mistakes :)

Anyways, I was supposed to take her out on sunday(more of a friend-zone type date), but she bailed on that yesterday. I figured I had one more shot with this girl before I Next her(my fault, didnt see the signs awhile ago)

So I asked her out over msn(i never do this), and I cant really judge her interest level that well through words on a page. Some help with doing this please? I'll try to fill in some blanks as we go along, to avoid confusion.

Anyways here goes:
HB says:
hah y is it... i was there tonite?? [my SN was that some part of town was ****ed up tonight, possibly an excuse to talk to me?]
BLUEYES says:
it was pretty nuts
BLUEYES says:
i was at a 711 on the way back from ---- park, and there was acouple kids in the store dealing weed to the chick behind the counter, and they had a napkin with coke on it, right beside...haha all that while customers are lining up
BLUEYES says:
there was some other weird stuff i saw, but that basicly sums it up
HB says:
hah ur kidding i bought a lighter there tonite
HB says:
haha
BLUEYES says:
haha really?
BLUEYES says:
thats so jokes
BLUEYES says:
you see the girl behind the counter?
HB says:
yeah.. she did look like the type i guess
BLUEYES says:
haha fukin pothead, these kids were like 14 yrs old and dealin to her
HB says:
were they all sitting across the street cause there were a bunch just hanging there the whole nite
BLUEYES says:
i dunno, i didnt really pay attention...i was just like wtf and left after i bought some stuff
BLUEYES says:
thhats pretty strange that we were both in there tonite [trying to lead the convo]
BLUEYES says:
not exactly a hub of activity
HB says:
i know what time did u go
HB says:
hah i know
BLUEYES says:
like 10 mabye
BLUEYES says:
ya i was there at 10
BLUEYES says:
u?
HB says:
nice i think we were there around 1030
HB says:
close
BLUEYES says:
ahh close
BLUEYES says:
why were ya in ------?
BLUEYES says:
smokin up wit the 711 girl? [neg hit, felt right at the time]
HB says:
hah.. walked around were really bored deciding to make a fire went to --------- park or w/v its called and made it (mainly with a **** load of newspaper) it was really quite fun haha
HB says:
nope
BLUEYES says:
hah who were ya with? [didnt kno if she has a bf or not]
HB says:
HB2 and HB3.. they were funny got creeped out at everything still good landed up bak at ------... what were u up to
BLUEYES says:
oh i was just at ------ buyin some stuff, had to go to 711 cause they didnt have it
HB says:
hah i went there too
BLUEYES says:
shoulda called me up, im like 2 seconds away from --------- park, or whatever its called [puttin my interest on the table]
BLUEYES says:
kinda creepy, stalker! [another neg, about the extreme coincidence of her following me, felt right at the time again]
HB says:
awww
HB says:
thats tru... we really didnt know what we were doing.. just went where ever thats mainly y we built a fire
BLUEYES says:
good call fires are fun
BLUEYES says:
i think im a pyro actually..every time we make a fire, im always piling more **** into it [i remember a convo from months ago with her telling me about her being a pyro, tryed to throw common ground in there]
HB says:
yup that was me
BLUEYES says:
lol
HB says:
i loveee fire [didnt really know what to say after this, so I dropped the bomb]
BLUEYES says:
hey whatre you doin tomorrow night?...i guess its tomorrow already, but whatever [12:30AM]
HB says:
nuttin u? [Bingo, looks like im in]
BLUEYES says:
there's some party at ------'s later on[getting it across that I wasn't desperate], but before that i was wonderin if you wanted to see that new -------- movie that just came out? [cheesy movie date i know, but the action date for sunday fell through]
HB says:
yeah.. well ill have to c but yeah sounds good where is it playing? [Kinda unclear response, as far as interest goes]
HB says:
ohh and where does ------ live?? [interested in party, im thinkin bad; parties = to meet OTHER guys]
BLUEYES says:
cool, i dunno where its playin yet, just thought of it now but ill check...by the way, ------ lives like near ----- road and ---- drive.
BLUEYES says:
its supposed to be pretty big, he just told me like 5 minutes ago
HB says:
nice
HB says:
how r u getting there [showing some interest in the party...]
BLUEYES says:
dunno, if i dont drink ill prolly drive..if i do then i might bike hah
HB says:
hah.. dont drink hah [using, perhaps?]
BLUEYES says:
interested in goin?
HB says:
yeah, i feel like ive missed out on every party thus far literally gtg to one
BLUEYES says:
good call i dunno, i might drive...we'll have to see [didnt want to commit to being a taxi if nothing came of the movie date]
BLUEYES says:
i guess u should [come to the party] since your outta this town in like 2 weeks
HB says:
mhmm tru that
HB says:
soo happy
BLUEYES says:
you have a cell right?
HB says:
yeah.. but its never onn hah
HB says:
one sec
BLUEYES says:
i sent u the email for the party
BLUEYES says:
so u can see what it is
HB says:
sry yeah.. cool bak now
BLUEYES says:
k well i think i have ur number from way back on your birthday, ill call sometime tomorrow about it...im goin to bed [convo was getting stagnant, had to raise the anchor]
HB says:
kk nite ill leave it on this time
BLUEYES says:
aight, good plan
BLUEYES says:
night
I find it hard to guage interest without body language and voice tones, etc...Thanks for the help

P.S. this isn't oneitis or anything chumpy, I have a date with a different girl already set up for Saturday, I'm just confused over this one.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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BluEyes

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Thanks...

Originally posted by Southside Pimp
im sexy wit a big black dyck!
I'll take your advice to heart...
 

Pimp-sicle

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The conversation was 90% friendly and maybe 5-10% you trying to make it flirty. It seems like she only sees you as a friend at the moment, but your not in the friend zone. Meaning, if you play your cards right, you can bang her. Definitely a bad call to tell her about the party, especially if your going to go to a movie with her earlier in the day. However, if your smooth enough you can elevate her interest in you on your "date," then get her jealous as fuvk at the party by gaming other broads. Of course she could also do this to you, and if she's hot it will be a lot easier for her.

The only thing that bothers me is you said you tried calling her a few times earlier in the day. That's not good dude! Call once, if she doesn't answer or call back, then wait a few days before you try again. The key to seducing girls successfully is to talk about things only you two can talk about. If you don't want to hit the friend zone, don't act like a friend. I know it sounds simple, but that's really the bottom line. Stop the MSN bullshyt, seduce her on the phone, seduce her when you hang out and make her want more.



PIMP
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA awful is all I have to say.

First of all, the NUMBER ONE thing that any girl has ever told me pisses them off, is when guys try to ask them out over msn. Even though you seem to realize its a bad idea, there are absolutley no exceptions. If you want to have some light conversation over msn, fine, but you never ever makes plans over it. Not even with your friends, MSN is so impersonal, you should always call anyone.

Anyways, you should next this girl unless she starts being interested in more than getting to the party. You shouldn't have even mentioned it, you should ask her out, and while on the date mention the party as an option to attend later if her interest in you is high enough.

Oh well.

--Mission
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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BluEyes

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Thanks fo the input ma niggas

might have been abit harsh but it makes clear sense, was wat im lookin for. fvckin msn is ****

whatever, its all cool. ill either pull the bacon off the fire or next the b1tch, either one works for me.

Originally posted by Pimp-sicle
However, if your smooth enough you can elevate her interest in you on your "date," then get her jealous as fuvk at the party by gaming other broads.
this's what i was thinkin of doin anyways

peace
 
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