"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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?? umm...why


seems like if you don't convo enough you only the email
but if she knows your better you get the number


the email results in more flakes
the number means ? WHAT I dont' know
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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***** if I wanted your email address i would have asked for it.. this isn't a multiple choice question.. you either give me your phone number or you say no thanks. it's not hard. And people wonder what's wrong with america, people can't even follow simple instructions these days.

In all seriousness (Actually i was being serious) if a woman has the neve to give me attempt to embarrass me enough to give me her email address and I asked for her phone number, I'd walk alway and let her see me ball it up and throw it away. stupid ****
 

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backbreaker said:
***** if I wanted your email address i would have asked for it.. this isn't a multiple choice question.. you either give me your phone number or you say no thanks. it's not hard. And people wonder what's wrong with america, people can't even follow simple instructions these days.

In all seriousness (Actually i was being serious) if a woman has the neve to give me attempt to embarrass me enough to give me her email address and I asked for her phone number, I'd walk alway and let her see me ball it up and throw it away. stupid ****
Yea you have a point on this,

but I think the way I ask for her number, I give her the option number email ro something ,
and obivously she'll take the easy route and select email


thats something i m hesitant to change as having email will give you at least something -0- instead of an all or nothing..you have at least the email which might result in somehting
 

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you are missing the point a smuch as she is.

you want to put them on the "point". make them make a split second decision... because you will get the truth.

what the **** have you accomplished by getting an email address, when if she wanted, she can just hit the spam button, never to see or hear from you again?

Look woman, if you don't want me to talk to you, tell me you don't want me to talk to you. I'm a big boy. i can take it. You aren't going to hurt my feelings. there are women for different reasons I don't want to talk to. That's life.

Don't be so afraid of rejection that you have to always leave yourself an such as a spam box infected email address

I mean listen to your rationale

lol, what woman says "damn, I don't like him enough to give him my phone number... but I guess I could give him my email address"

and when you leave her presence, do you honestly, deep down, think you are going to talk to her again?

HELL NO.. but you just had an interaction with a woman without getting rejected, or bruising your ego, which is what it comes down to.

I can take rejection... And the woman who GIVE you their numbers, you know there is some interest there

you can't take the good and not take the bad. Or in your case, you can't take the good and try to hedge the bad
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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backbreaker said:
In all seriousness (Actually i was being serious) if a woman has the neve to give me attempt to embarrass me enough to give me her email address and I asked for her phone number, I'd walk alway and let her see me ball it up and throw it away. stupid ****

"I don't know whatcha heard about me - but a b!tch can't get a dolla outta me.
No cadillac no perm ya can't see - that I'm a muthafvckin P-I-M-P" :crackup:

You're my new hero backbreaker.
 

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well, women do **** because we let them do it. That's not me being an ******* as some women will led you to believe, that's me showing you how I actually feel about the situtatiion. and I bet next time she is in the situtation, she thinks twice about pulling crap like that.

i've had something similar happen before, girl tried to be cute and bust me out in front of my friends about 3 years ago, and I embarrassed her by not giving her MY phone number. then she tried to turn the tables and give me hers, and I wouldn't take it. **** her. She is showing you the BS you are going to have to put up with in the future, like a crystal ball.
 
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