"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ice882 said:
Most bitter thread ever. You guys are absolutely sh1tting on this girl. Lame.
It's called "Baptism By Fire" and every woman who posts here had been through it. Most get their feelings hurt to the point where they run away sobbing, others tough it out and stay on.

Emma, my advice to you is to read the DJ bible and understand the general perceptions of relationships here. Some guys here just want to get laid, others want a LTR. Give advice specific to their wants and choose your battles carefully.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Umm...yeah. Thats what I call chicks who try to enlighten me with bullshyt. Is there a problem with that?
 

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As much pain and bitterness as guys here have gone through. The last thing their ego wants is a woman trying to tell them where they went wrong. Like a man going to a battered womens shelter and wanting to talk to them about where their relationships went wrong. So Emma. if you can survive the hate and come with something of real value, you might win these guys over. But I doubt it. I think you'll blink and fold before then.
 

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(quickly hands emma a protective b!itch shield so sticks and stones don't knock her out)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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penkitten said:
(quickly hands emma a protective b!itch shield so sticks and stones don't knock her out)
She hasn't posted in 4 days...I think she went home!
 

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WaterTiger said:
She hasn't posted in 4 days...I think she went home!
another one bites the dust....
and another one goes and another one goes and....
another one bites the dust
 

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Emma said:
Fun fact: some of the sex tips offered by Cosmo have put men in the hospital. xD

And why exactly wouldn't you listen to what women tell you they are looking for in a guy? Do you believe women are lying to you? Because if you do, that's rather sad, and possibly a reason you have to resort to forums like this one. :nono:

Also, what's 'alphaness'? Please, don't tell me people still ascribe to the Neanderthalan 'me r toughest dog; you will sex me because i r toughest' thing? In all honesty, that just comes across as A. Obnoxious and b. As if you are very stupid and mysognistic, which is not helping you in the relationship department.
I wouldn't expect most women to be very well acquainted with the type of social hierarchy most men contend with on a regular basis. It usually takes just a few experiences of losing girls to other men for a guy to realize that there is an ideal you have to live up to, if you want attractive women.
 

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We are here again in the presence of a filthy lying who*re who try to ruin men's life with her BULL SH!T advices. What are you going to tell me? Treat Women nice, Do what they tell you, bow down and worship them, compliment them all times, treat her like a goddess??? GET THE FVCK OUT OF THIS FORUM, young lady. Your kind do not deserve sh1t to be dwelling among us who realized that listening to women only brings destruction and vice. We know each and every women ruin other poor guys' lives by telling them "Oh, if you're nice and providing, and treat us like gold, we will want you". Yet, how many nice guys make mistakes like these and never see a punani in their life time? Primary fault is ours: those men that are not improving themselves. But you fvcking women shouldn't make matters worse by giving fvcking bs "advice", which yall do anyways b/c inside, women are deceitful little sh1ts that have no limits unless you put them in place. I bet you $100000000 that if there was a typical AFC nice guy, and a funny and manly DJ guy, I guran-fvcking-tee you will go out 6 million times with the funny manly DJ. DON'T COME HERE AND FEED US YOUR TYPICAL BULL SH!T. I was a nice guy and it pisses me off deeply when there's another wtf b!tch trying to disguise ruining of other men by saying "I want to help". Get the fvck out of this forum and go keep telling poor men "be nice then we will love you" bull sh!t, while you're being choked by a jerk's fat c0ck. Your kind of women are fvcking disgusting and menace to manhood in this society.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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