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(Asian DJs) skills adjustment on Asian women

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Hi all,

Given some experience encountered with asian women. (I'm an Asian Chinese) I discovered that some DJ mindset need adjustments when used on an asian chick. Calibration. that's.

Example :

1) Challenge had to be toned down when used on a non-westernized asian woman.

2) Some even reckon using slight jealousy when the asian HB has high interest will make a good cause when done in moderation.

3) more..

Starting this thread for mainly asian DJs, discuss about the DJ aspects on Asian non-westerned women.

Vel
 

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She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Am asian myself and I agree that you have to tone down abit when approuching asian woman but am sure some caucasian guy will come in here and say woman are the same in all nation and DJisiam works on any woman.

Funny you started the thread becase am totally lost about how to approuch the non-westernize asian woman. The westernize ones I found are much easier to approuch and usually gives you positive feedback. The non-westernize ones usually are always seem lost and confuse, its hard to tell if shes flatter or intrested in you. You have to lead alot more then you would with a westernize ones since they don't talk much or ask you questions.
 

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I'm not asian but I've dated asian women a few times now. You do have to tone it down a bit. But on the other hand they seem to show more respect for you then western b1tches. They also don't seem to complain about you
 

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Challenge is still good, but i agree you dont need that much with asian women. However i do tend to notice that asian girls generally have lower self-esteem than their western counterparts.

hence why asian girls get the stereotype that they're easy.
 

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ScrewIt said:
Challenge is still good, but i agree you dont need that much with asian women. However i do tend to notice that asian girls generally have lower self-esteem than their western counterparts.

hence why asian girls get the stereotype that they're easy.
I would have to disagree. Asian woman are usually highly educated and have every reason to have high self-esteem. There is just a big difference in the way americanized woman act and that is due to culture.

Asian girls will actually be nice to you ifyou treat them well. Western women won't
 

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That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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im asian as well.i just think asian chicks have an shell and other chicks dont. you gotta break that shell
 

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I'm azn chinese as well and i noticed that the azn girls really dig the nice guy not the ***** nice guy, but just a nice guy period in fact i think every girl does like a Nice Jerk as AC/DC said it, but azn women respond more to it.
 

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Personally, I have been a mega challenge to 2 asian HB8-9, in the end the sets failed due to them thinking that I did not show enough attention.

i.e. They expect exchanges of phone calls and smses really regularly and they love the way it is. AFCism it seems to the western DJs, but in asian culture, we may just have to do it, but of course in moderation, and always cap to her doing more.

But personally i tried the non AFC ways, being the exact challenge model on how the western DJs described, my local PUAs and female pivots say what i did is perfectly flawless and the proportion of them contacting me is like 4 to 1. BUT! Initially their IL are rocket high. they seems to lose faith and became really insecured after the challenge prolongs to more than a month.
In the end, I lost both sets and kept pondering what have i done wrong.

I wasn't being "AFCish" enough. gurps...

Care! I'm talking from Experience.
 

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i'm australian, but i've dated a couple of asian chicks too. i realize that they tend to be less outspoken than their western counterparts, and they're also more commited when it comes to LTRs. they also take things a little harder and are not so willing to let go of a relationship that might be hurting them as a caucasian chick might.

also the teasing goes down a notch. asian women are sensitive creatures. but if rubbed the right way (no pun intended), they make for excellent girlfriends.
 

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I think you guys need to define what you mean by 'Asian'. In reality the term 'Asian' covers a wide field, and there are A LOT of difference to, say, a chick from China, Korea, Japan or a chick grown up in the West with asian roots.
 

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Chinese and Indian girls are very conservative, but the Japanese, maybe not so much.

My experience: the challenge is still needed. Don't call her too often, don't go on about how much you like her. If she says "friends first", you still say "no way."

But the teasing and ****iness don't go over well. Even if it's funny, and she gets the joke, they just look at you oddly. When she gives you an honest compliment, you can't say "truly, I am the bomb." They don't find it charming.

The other difference is time. If an American woman needs more than 3 dates to decide if you're good enough to be intimate with, she's just stringing you along. Not so for the chinese or Indians I've been with. Be a little more patient, but keep the challenge going.
 

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00Kevin said:
I would have to disagree. Asian woman are usually highly educated and have every reason to have high self-esteem.
Um, since when is a woman's (or man's) self-esteem based upon their academic achievements?

A person's self-eseem is based upon their MATE VALUE, which essentially is their "sex & relationship appeal." And if anything, many brainy nerds have low mate values because they are not physically attractive enough. Get real - who got the hottest girls in high school - the quarterback or the valedictorian? Who gets the hottest girls in real life - the engineer or the rock star?
 

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wayword said:
Um, since when is a woman's (or man's) self-esteem based upon their academic achievements?

A person's self-eseem is based upon their MATE VALUE, which essentially is their "sex & relationship appeal." And if anything, many brainy nerds have low mate values because they are not physically attractive enough. Get real - who got the hottest girls in high school - the quarterback or the valedictorian? Who gets the hottest girls in real life - the engineer or the rock star?
Right, thats why you shouldn believe everything you hear. Sounds right if you glance at it but totally wrong if you stop and thought about it.
 

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In My Strong opinion, C&F works good enough for asian conservative girls. When we are talking about the asian context. We mean NON-WESTERNISED ASIAN GIRLS. Westernized asian girls = game as usual as western girls.

Hope you get what i mean.

I have been following mystery, David D, and the DJ bible. It may work perfectly on western girls. But BUT BUT! it may not work Totally on asian girls. AFCism (this term may confuse new DJs.) will work on asian girls IF! they are all over you. meaning, they are super glued to you.

Too little information and mindsets are given on the asian context, as most of the DJs are westerners. We need to set something of the Asian context and adjust the mindset according.

HOWEVER, some basic general guidelines are not to be neglected. Example. Rollo Thomasi's Plate Theory and Cardinal rule of relationships. They are catered to the GLOBAL context. It explains the general view of mammals.

The more specifics are to be sub-divided and re-discussed.

Asians. SPEAK UP FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES

<Once again, I remind all, we are talking about non-westernized Asians in this thread>
 

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Centaurion said:
I think you guys need to define what you mean by 'Asian'. In reality the term 'Asian' covers a wide field, and there are A LOT of difference to, say, a chick from China, Korea, Japan or a chick grown up in the West with asian roots.
From experience,

China Chinese = Mostly Gold diggers. They can;t wait to moved out of their country.

Japanese = Yet to game. but up to other DJs whom game a different variety of japanese girls (I mean varieties like , jap party girls, conservatives, etc.)

Korean = I met party girls, they are mysterious and hard to analyze. Frankly, still on the process to know more about them.
A friend has a korean gf, conservative whom is not a party animal. GREAT lover, and a complete quality for a LTR for sure. <She is a total AFC to my DJ friend>

Indians and others, not within my reach yet.

Add on, Asian buddies

VEL
 

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DjVelvet said:
From experience,

China Chinese = Mostly Gold diggers. They can;t wait to moved out of their country.
wth is a china chinese? Either they're westernized or not.

I've had a completely opposite experience with non-western. They are/were genuine with their interest and are well on their own 2 feet, them being a gold digger would be the last thing on my mind. Good for LTR i'd say.


Japanese = Yet to game. but up to other DJs whom game a different variety of japanese girls (I mean varieties like , jap party girls, conservatives, etc.)
The ones i were interested in werent interested; the ones that were interested i wasnt into...so i cant say much. However from what i've seen they're very quiet creatures unless spoken to.

Korean = I met party girls, they are mysterious and hard to analyze. Frankly, still on the process to know more about them.
A friend has a korean gf, conservative whom is not a party animal. GREAT lover, and a complete quality for a LTR for sure. <She is a total AFC to my DJ friend>
i've had nothing but bad experiences with them (conservative type)
My friend had a similar dilemna as mine. They're fvcked in the head, they're either golddiggers who live on daddy's money, or they're looking for a 'perfect' guy who's also christian to settle down with and hope for him to feed her golddigging needs. But it doesnt mean they wont fvck you in a heartbeat

Out of all 3, korean girls are major attention *****s.
 

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ScrewIt said:
wth is a china chinese? Either they're westernized or not.

I've had a completely opposite experience with non-western. They are/were genuine with their interest and are well on their own 2 feet, them being a gold digger would be the last thing on my mind. Good for LTR i'd say.




The ones i were interested in werent interested; the ones that were interested i wasnt into...so i cant say much. However from what i've seen they're very quiet creatures unless spoken to.



i've had nothing but bad experiences with them (conservative type)
My friend had a similar dilemna as mine. They're fvcked in the head, they're either golddiggers who live on daddy's money, or they're looking for a 'perfect' guy who's also christian to settle down with and hope for him to feed her golddigging needs. But it doesnt mean they wont fvck you in a heartbeat

Out of all 3, korean girls are major attention *****s.
Looks like we are really meeting different kinds of asian girls. great difference we are encountering.
 
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