as life experiences cumulate - do women become less special to you?

[zekko]

I think I find women just as desireable as they've always been. I'm just more practical about it.

I admit I'm not as horny as I was when I was say, 17, but that's a good thing. I don't need to be popping random boners at work lol.

 

[sodbuster]

Atom Smasher nailed it, and Backbreaker fleshed out the idea. I HAVE things to do. I don't need the ego boost. I've had the ego boost of having a woman lay there...too worn out to get her own Diet Coke. Once in a while, I still want a stray. Once in awhile, I still eat at McDonalds too. BUT I don't need a steady diet of big mac's

 

[jhl]

I don't think that women have become less special in my eyes. I think it's more that I've been more practical and level headed when it comes to women and relationships.

After taking the red pill, I came to the realization like all of you that my views of a relationship and women were skewed because I was misguided, idealistic, and believed in information which was not true. After going through this phase, I think I became very practical and realized that the Disney-fairy tale ending is not the reality of how love and relationships work.

To give an analogy of this transitional experience, it was like having dreams about the job I wanted as a 5 year old. I wanted to become an astronaut, I wanted to win the Nobel Prize and cure cancer and AIDS, and at one point I wanted to become a CEO of a fortune 500 company. As I grew older, I calibrated my expectations based on where I was at, what I achieved, and where I was heading in life. While I won't say those goals are impossible, I would say that my chances are marginal at best of achieving those goals.

This is the same thing that happened with my views on women. I just became more practical as I grew up. I learned about hypergamy, cheating women, branch swinging women, BPDs, and all the other stuff that is constantly written on this board about women. The idealized view of women that I had in my mind has been completely rewritten.

This doesn't mean that women in general have become "less special" to me. It just means that fewer and fewer have been "more special" b/c I screen a hell of a lot more than before. You can take the experiences and view it negatively or positively. I choose to view things positively and I am very happy with my experience on this board learning about all the problems of marriage and women from the seasoned members of sosuave. I have learned vicariously through everyone on how to mitigate disasters that may pop up if and when I decide to tie the knot.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I want to live my life free of women, like backbreaker says. I still just have not reached the point where I can do that. I thought that having such power over women would free me to do my other passions, cars, mma, videogames, clothing design, philosophy... but really just the opposite, I have become apathetic to just about everything.

My two cents:

In "Think and Grow Rich," Hill states that excessive promiscuity / sexual release is one of the biggest killers of your money making mojo. Most guys kill their drive with excessive whacking.

Your experience seems to confirm this.

A lot of psychology books that I read state the one of the main driving forces of a man is to build himself up in order to get women. Well, once you feel like you are done building up, what is your motivation for anything anymore?

I think you're misunderstanding. All that "building up" is by guys who CAN'T get laid. So they channel all that extra energy into building up skills, wealth, etc. They think if they get really powerful, get lots of wealth, create beautiful pieces of art, they'll finally get access to the magical house of everlasting poon.

Problem is that it usually takes a lifetime to get to that level of wealth. (In the meantime, though, they come up with some nice looking cathedrals)

Most guys need to stop watching porn so they can learn some skills so they can get chicks. This is usually a life long process.

You just cut to the head of the line.

You want to get that feeling of "love back?"

stop chasing skirts for a good six months.

Seriously.

Force yourself to focus on other things. Things that you used to want to focus on.

Sure, it ain't easy, but neither is it for most guys to put down their ding-dong and go out and talk to people.

If you REALLY want to get that "feeling" back, keep dating, just don't sleep with them. Try it as an experiment for a couple months and see what happens.

Or maybe try getting some female friends and see if you can find something in chicks to value OTHER than sex, or a path to sex.

Force yourself to re-alter your rewards system when it comes to women.

Like morbidly obese fat dudes who slurp down a barrel of ice cream without even tasting it. Then they spend years getting into really good shape, and enjoy a small half pint on special occasions.

And when they eat it, it's the most delicious thing they've ever tasted.

 

[betheman]

Fewer women are special, I used to think pretty much all of them were, what makes them special has also changed. the criteria has become much narrower and defined.

 

[powpow]

My two cents:

In "Think and Grow Rich," Hill states that excessive promiscuity / sexual release is one of the biggest killers of your money making mojo. Most guys kill their drive with excessive whacking.

Your experience seems to confirm this.



I think you're misunderstanding. All that "building up" is by guys who CAN'T get laid. So they channel all that extra energy into building up skills, wealth, etc. They think if they get really powerful, get lots of wealth, create beautiful pieces of art, they'll finally get access to the magical house of everlasting poon.

Problem is that it usually takes a lifetime to get to that level of wealth. (In the meantime, though, they come up with some nice looking cathedrals)

Most guys need to stop watching porn so they can learn some skills so they can get chicks. This is usually a life long process.

You just cut to the head of the line.

You want to get that feeling of "love back?"

stop chasing skirts for a good six months.

Seriously.

Force yourself to focus on other things. Things that you used to want to focus on.

Sure, it ain't easy, but neither is it for most guys to put down their ding-dong and go out and talk to people.

If you REALLY want to get that "feeling" back, keep dating, just don't sleep with them. Try it as an experiment for a couple months and see what happens.

Or maybe try getting some female friends and see if you can find something in chicks to value OTHER than sex, or a path to sex.

Force yourself to re-alter your rewards system when it comes to women.

Like morbidly obese fat dudes who slurp down a barrel of ice cream without even tasting it. Then they spend years getting into really good shape, and enjoy a small half pint on special occasions.

And when they eat it, it's the most delicious thing they've ever tasted.

maaaaaan I havent gone without more than 2 weeks of sex since I was a teenager. I'm not sure how thats going to go.

But you know recently, I have been longing for those times before I knew sex. Back when I liked to stay up all night playing videogames with my friends, going to the waterpark for the rides, working on my car because I love cars, art. ahhhhhhh those hobbies... I miss loving them for them, not for what they could do for me when it comes to girls.

there was one girl who I can say I have loved. and I just booked a flight back to osaka for the winter. I can say its because I want to see my friends, go to the used videogame shop, drive my friends new s15 silvia, work at the bar for fun for a few nights, but I know its to see her.

ahhhhh FML. not really. life is fun. but its major adventure

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

200 women / 24 months = 8.33 women per month = average of 2 new sexual partners per week.

I have only one question, what band do you play for?