"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Article: Woman uses man to advance career; it backfires

Metro3pilot

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This chick is an idiot and needs a reference for a job, because her intelligence is obviously below average ...

only an Idiot would use someone for a reference who they

1. had a history with and she admits he was broken
2. someone they had not talked to in awhile
3. without first getting permission to use the person in the first place

my .02

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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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West, I agree with you in part.

She is undoubtedly a cold-hearted b!tch.

But it wasnt malice for pleasure. Thats a criminal. In her mind she did nothing wrong other than 'dumping' him, hence the letter to an advice column looking for further support and rationalization of her self-serving pursuit.

It seems to me like she intuitively recognized a potential means to her end, capitalized on it, and made cognitive detours along the way to avoid the guilt and rationalize her actions. Probably been doing that to some degree most of her life.

People exploit others in a thousand different shades, and women are experts at emotional manipulation. Was it a concious, plotted effort on her part, like a criminal who steals a painting? No. It was a selfish heart.

Was the guy an AFC? Thats pretty much given. But AFC or not, no one is deserving of that usery, especially a widower.
 

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Colossus said:
Was the guy an AFC? Thats pretty much given. But AFC or not, no one is deserving of that usery, especially a widower.
that's why they say lifes a b*tch and then you die.

its really sad when you think of a lot of the tragedies some peopel go through, only to die with sever disappointment over their life 'experience'.
 

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A little bit off topic, but if you want to see something that kind of relates to this but in a deeper way, see the movie "Michael Clayton." Just saw it last night, best movie I've seen in years. It's tremendous. You wanna see an evil woman? This movie has one of the all-timers.
 

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WaterTiger said:
What a vicious little cvnt! I hope her next job includes her having to ask :"You want fries with that?"
It probably will include her having to ask, "you would like a 2 for 1 [dance]?"
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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STR8UP said:
I know a guy in his late 40's, pretty much a sleazeball, who hires these 19 yr old Russian chicks to be his "assistants".
Interesting that you mentioned Russian chicks. It is quite common in the former USSR for a manager to put an ad in the paper wanting a female assistant of age < 25 y.o., "without complexes". Of course, the main "complex" to which he refers is the one in which a woman would want to bang the boss.
 

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DJDamage said:
This sort of remined of the episode of Seinfeld where George passes over hiring an attractive personal secretary for a plain looking one <snip>
I like the "Married With Children" episode when Al needs to hire an assistant. The scene cuts to a closeup of the applicant's extraordinarily ample breasts, with Al simply saying, "you're hired".
 

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I can't belive you guys are excusing her behavior by saying "Oh I don't think she meant to be evil" and "she was just being a woman".

None of this absolves her of the crap she pulled! She DELIBERATLY cultivated him emotionally and then dumped him when she found a younger guy. She was evil, malicious and calculating with some one else's heart. She deserves nothing but utter contempt.

As an "old school" guy he would still be helping her if she'd been on the level with him and offered this deal: "Look, I need some help with my career and you can give it to me. I have this nice young body and don't mind banging you in exchange for that help. Are you open to that?"

He'd have jumped at the chance and her career would have been on an upward trajectory. he would have understood it as a business merger (pun intended!) and not had a "breakdown" when she was ready to move on. No harm, no foul. Everybody wins, nobody's hurt.

I truly hope her NEW boss recognizes this woman and fires her. She just pisses me the hell off! Grrrrrrr!
 

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The thing that gets me is that she didnt admit that she 'messed up' until she was forced to face the consequences of her actions. I wonder how 'guilty' she felt before she was turned down...
 

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WestCoaster said:
This is classic, glad the columnist gave her the business, which she often does -- surprisingly for a woman.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/hax/335098_hax12.html

One of the best pieces of advice I've taken from this site is look at women's actions, not their words. Listen to this woman's words, but follow her actions.

When it backfires on her, she can't believe it. She used a widower to advance her career and then couldn't believe he later on wouldn't give her a recommendation.

Another piece of advice learned: Women do what they're going to do and excuse it later. I find many people -- men and especially women today -- lacking a conscience.
Heh, she deserves it right!

Green Peace
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I took a look at these Hax articles after reading this thread (and visiting Seattle), and She does pull some boners:

Dear Carolyn: I got engaged last year to "Lynn," and we were completely happy until one night a party went bad, and alcohol and chemistry led my fiancee to cheat on me with someone she works with. At first I accepted that things happen. Then I began to get confused.

I told my girl I was not happy with their hanging out together any more. She said she needed friends, it was a mistake, "please trust me." So I did. She is still friends with him and they hang out once in a while, to this day. I am thinking I should tell her to pick him or me, but that feels wrong. I know the value of friendship. But I don't want my heart trampled again.

-- Frozen in Minnesota

Dear Frozen: You've set your own pain aside, twice -- out of respect not just for her friendship with this guy, but also for your friendship with her. So, yes, I'd say you do know the value of friendship.

The question is, does she?

Whom she befriends, where you draw lines and whether and what to forgive -- these are all details only you and Lynn can work out. Name any arrangement, and you'll find at least one couple who has made it work. That's why no one can tell you that giving this friendship your blessing is right, wrong, heroic, chumpy or nuts. Or all five.

I know a lot of people disagree with that (and can't wait to tell me so) and wonder how anyone in these circumstances would trust Lynn not to cheat.

But it's beside the point. She can climb Mount Fidelity and still trample you with every step.

The issue is whether you can trust her to care how you feel. You got engaged -- that means you both volunteered to watch out for each other through life.

Please watch closely how she treats you, and ask yourself if you're taking care of each other in this relationship, or if you're both taking care of her.

That's what you trust. Sometimes the problem isn't the sacrifice you're making; it's that you were ever asked to make it.
I mean, was she on Qualludes that day? Just what action was she suggesting he take? This is worse than any Female post we complain about on here.
 

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Phyzzle said:
I took a look at these Hax articles after reading this thread (and visiting Seattle), and She does pull some boners:



I mean, was she on Qualludes that day? Just what action was she suggesting he take? This is worse than any Female post we complain about on here.
Yes Phyzzle, this is highly disturbing advise. In fact, to clasify it as advise is not accurate, it's a bunch of feel good words that combined, mean absolutely nothing.

I've lost a lot of respect for our dear 'Carolyn' in seattle unfortunately.

I should write her for advise:

Dear Carolyn (from Mr.P): My wife of eight years cheated on me. I realized it was completely my fault, being the man, so I bought her a brand new SUV to apologize. She cheated on me again. Boy did I really screw up for her to do this. I bought her a vacation home overseas. She then slept with poolboy at the vacation home while I slaved away at my job for 14 hours a day to pay for it. I'm not sure what to do, can you help?

Dear Mr.P (from Carloyn): You are on the right track. You've realized that your wife's behavior is all your fault because you have not been there for her emotionally. A new SUV and vacation home is not enough to keep your wife happy. Tell her you love her. Then buy her a big diamond to show her. Remember, you are lucky to have her in your life, she brings joy and peace because she is a women. You would be worthless without her. Good luck.

...yeah, definitely worse than a female post.
 

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Yes Phyzzle, this is highly disturbing advise. In fact, to clasify it as advise is not accurate, it's a bunch of feel good words that combined, mean absolutely nothing.

I've lost a lot of respect for our dear 'Carolyn' in seattle unfortunately.

I should write her for advise:

Dear Carolyn (from Mr.P): My wife of eight years cheated on me. I realized it was completely my fault, being the man, so I bought her a brand new SUV to apologize. She cheated on me again. Boy did I really screw up for her to do this. I bought her a vacation home overseas. She then slept with poolboy at the vacation home while I slaved away at my job for 14 hours a day to pay for it. I'm not sure what to do, can you help?

Dear Mr.P (from Carloyn): You are on the right track. You've realized that your wife's behavior is all your fault because you have not been there for her emotionally. A new SUV and vacation home is not enough to keep your wife happy. Tell her you love her. Then buy her a big diamond to show her. Remember, you are lucky to have her in your life, she brings joy and peace because she is a women. You would be worthless without her. Good luck.

...yeah, definitely worse than a female post.
:crackup: :crackup: But this is pretty much how women think in a nutshell!
 

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penkitten said:
where were her thought police on this one?
Having a donut and coffee down at the thought cafe??:D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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