KneghtRyder
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
article: Why Doesn't Evolution Get Rid of Ugly People?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
KneghtRyder
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NickBe said:
the concept is ..if we all want 'high fitness mates' good looking partners..how come ugly hasnt been weeded out yet.
KneghtRyder
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NickBe said:
the article says a hot father could mean an ugly daughter a hot mom could make a ugly son....etc
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
theunflushables
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My theory is that generally ugly people are also stupid. And we all know stupid people breed a lot more than smart people. Fvck global warming, we have the save the world from ugly idiots!
If ugliness a weakness though in the hunter gatherer sense of the word? in some cultures fat women are beautiful. Genetics doesn't say 'well now I am living in L.A a place obsessed with looks so lets make a pretty baby'. I do not agree that looks are a genetic factor. Since different places in the world find different characteristics attractive. It is as if saying because Japanese people are attracted to anime characters with blue hair and gigantic eyes you expect evolution to create people with blue hair and huge eyes.
Physical fitness and resistance to diseases are factors and personally I think the weak have been weeded out. This can be seen by the dramatic increase in life expectancy over the past few centuries. I know medicine plays its part too.
On top of this how long have humans been here? 3.5 million years at the most and that cant really be verified. Evolution takes a long, long time. Then add the fact that humans have a conscious brain, we do not just seek the healthiest mate. Our society and idealistic view of love negates most of the natural breeding process.
Humans naturally find the most compatible/fittest partner through pheromones. Today we have deodorants that block out our pheromones.
I mean there are thousands of reasons.
Physical fitness and resistance to diseases are factors and personally I think the weak have been weeded out. This can be seen by the dramatic increase in life expectancy over the past few centuries. I know medicine plays its part too.
On top of this how long have humans been here? 3.5 million years at the most and that cant really be verified. Evolution takes a long, long time. Then add the fact that humans have a conscious brain, we do not just seek the healthiest mate. Our society and idealistic view of love negates most of the natural breeding process.
Humans naturally find the most compatible/fittest partner through pheromones. Today we have deodorants that block out our pheromones.
I mean there are thousands of reasons.
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Ya know, it could also be because ugly people have beautiful children, and vice versa? It's not exactly like there's a "beauty gene". A lot of it is just luck.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
What's considered ugly changes from generation to generation. Even Marilyn Monroe is considered "fat" by the standards of today's models who look like heroin addicts to me.
And as someone said, dumb people have more kids, whereas the more intelligent people tend to be more careful about family planning.
And as someone said, dumb people have more kids, whereas the more intelligent people tend to be more careful about family planning.
KneghtRyder
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Obsidian said:
well if you read the bottom.. it says female beauty and MALE ALPHA-MALE ness..
Jvesti
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mainly the retardation of the weeding out of ugly people is due to marriage and monogamy being enforced in society. social constructs
Still at that, despite good looks men are able to attract mates with other qualities such as the attainment of power and social status despite their appearance.
But its definitely happening just at a slow clip, evolution is slow man. Its only been the past 200 years where we weren't enclosed in small social groups for thousands of years.
Just look at a rich college, every girl there is a hot piece of ass. Go down to the projects and your lucky to find real attractive symetrical faces. And the ones that are generally have an easy pass out.
Truth is there is that 5-15% of the population born to a different father is natures way of improving the gene pool.
Still at that, despite good looks men are able to attract mates with other qualities such as the attainment of power and social status despite their appearance.
But its definitely happening just at a slow clip, evolution is slow man. Its only been the past 200 years where we weren't enclosed in small social groups for thousands of years.
Just look at a rich college, every girl there is a hot piece of ass. Go down to the projects and your lucky to find real attractive symetrical faces. And the ones that are generally have an easy pass out.
Truth is there is that 5-15% of the population born to a different father is natures way of improving the gene pool.
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Simple.
Beauty, mainly, is subjective.
Plus, it's not like only "beautiful" people reproduce anyway.
Beauty, mainly, is subjective.
Plus, it's not like only "beautiful" people reproduce anyway.
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Not really. (Human) beauty has been researched using proper scientific methods, and actually there is considerable statistical consistency in what most people consider as a beautiful/attractive human. The two main things I recall from this research are that "average" (size, dimensions, etc of bodily structures, i.e. an average shaped nose) is beautiful, and symmetry is beautiful. In short, if you have a face with average features and near-perfect symmetry, then most people will consider you "beautiful/handsome".Jerry Maguire said:
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Although there are proportions that have been researched, there is no such definite form of beauty. If enough people were asked, there would always be a handful of people who, for some reason of another, not find the subject attractive.
I see your point however, and concur that in an everyday realistic definition, there is such thing as a beauty which a high percentage of people would agree on.
I see your point however, and concur that in an everyday realistic definition, there is such thing as a beauty which a high percentage of people would agree on.
I'm just talking about statistical significance (which, by definition, is measured objectively). Of course, there will be outliers and deviation from the norms, but your "bell curve" is most people.
That being the case, if this is what drove the train, then there should be a gradual progression towards more beauty because the "majority vote" would cause genetic drift towards "beauty". But as has been pointed out, its a little more complicated than that.
I haven't had a chance to click on that article, whatever it shows.
That being the case, if this is what drove the train, then there should be a gradual progression towards more beauty because the "majority vote" would cause genetic drift towards "beauty". But as has been pointed out, its a little more complicated than that.
I haven't had a chance to click on that article, whatever it shows.
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If you ever had to take antibiotics, that was nature trying to weed you out and science thwarting it, particularly if you were too young to breed at the time.
Rollo Tomassi
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Alcohol.
Simple as that.
Simple as that.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.