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article: The End of Courtship

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www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/fashion/the-end-of-courtship.html

Basically women bemoaning that men like to "hook up" and not "date". I think that one of the big reasons for this development is that men have figured out that women are hypergamic, and that if the are to get laid by some woman, they won't need to wine & dine her - so spending time & money dating is just not worth it.
 

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Typical article by an old f*ck bemoaning the new generation. Happens every generation. Called a "filler article," even NYT has plenty of them.

Anybody who wails about "tradition" and how the world was a-ok back when they were a kid but sucks now has zero credibility with me.
 

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Is it already the third time that this article pops out this week or opti-men is giving me allucinations?

Not to bash op, thats a very interesting articles but would be better to keep the talking in the same thread.
 

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A good portion of the article was about the demise of traditional dating. Traditional dating involved the man initiating, planning, and paying for it all.
Its all about women. It pretty much puts women on a pedestal by design.
Its like the man has to hit all the right buttons so he can earn a second date. Fuhk That.

The advent of non-traditional dating has put things back to where they need to be and I see it as a good thing.

It doesn't make any sense to pull out all the stops for a traditional date with a girl you don't even truly know. Its no guarantee that you'll get something in return so why make an investment.

And why are these articles always centered around what the man can do for the woman????

Screw charm, screw planning a romantic date, screw putting much effort into it. Its funny how women in this world want to to be on a level playing field with men, yet bit ch because they aren't getting taken out on traditional dates anymore. Thats women for ya!

I remember the first date I went on after my divorce. I had it all planned out. I showed up at her place and gave her a rose. Went to Outback by her house.....had some steaks and beer.....blew $70. Then had some balcony box seats for a concert at House of Blues.....blew $85 there on tickets and drinks. The weeks that followed this date consisted of this girl playing every flakey a$$ game in the book. Ohh Lord I was a clueless chump. I do thank her for teaching me to recognize a waste of time. All that traditional dating did was waste my time and money. I got nothing from it other than the presence of an attractive female and thats not really worth much. Thankfully I learned quickly and this was the last time I did something so stupid.

When I finally wised up and used non traditional dating, I had more fun, spent less money, and got laid more often with less effort!
 

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Howiestern said:
A good portion of the article was about the demise of traditional dating. Traditional dating involved the man initiating, planning, and paying for it all.
Its all about women. It pretty much puts women on a pedestal by design.
Its like the man has to hit all the right buttons so he can earn a second date. Fuhk That.

The advent of non-traditional dating has put things back to where they need to be and I see it as a good thing.

It doesn't make any sense to pull out all the stops for a traditional date with a girl you don't even truly know. Its no guarantee that you'll get something in return so why make an investment.

And why are these articles always centered around what the man can do for the woman????

Screw charm, screw planning a romantic date, screw putting much effort into it. Its funny how women in this world want to to be on a level playing field with men, yet bit ch because they aren't getting taken out on traditional dates anymore. Thats women for ya!

I remember the first date I went on after my divorce. I had it all planned out. I showed up at her place and gave her a rose. Went to Outback by her house.....had some steaks and beer.....blew $70. Then had some balcony box seats for a concert at House of Blues.....blew $85 there on tickets and drinks. The weeks that followed this date consisted of this girl playing every flakey a$$ game in the book. Ohh Lord I was a clueless chump. I do thank her for teaching me to recognize a waste of time. All that traditional dating did was waste my time and money. I got nothing from it other than the presence of an attractive female and thats not really worth much. Thankfully I learned quickly and this was the last time I did something so stupid.
your problem is that you fail to see the middle ground of your experience and the article.

You are correct in the sense that blowing money on a date for a girl you dont' know is a very stupid and chompish thing to do. However who said that traditional dating means you have to blow wads of money on a girl?

the article is specifically talking about guys who don't know how to take a woman out on a real date. guys who "hook up" with girls in groups and dont' know how to go on actual first/second dates, i.e traditional dating. the article (to my knowledge) is not blasting people for not wanting to blow money on dates.

Your problem is that you spent money on a woman before you qualified her not that you went on a date lol. I very very much believe in traiditonal dating becase it works. what doesn't work is trying to qualify yourself to a woman by showing how awesome she is even thoughs he hasn't done anything yet to be awesome by giving her stuff and buying her affection.

My first date with my wife was the beach. the 2nd was the bowling alley. lthe third was a cook out. the 2nd date with my first real adult girlfriend was put put golf. I've taken dates to go kart tracks, zoo's, the horse track, dave and busters, ice skating (girls don't believe me when i say i can ice skate i suppose because i'm black lol, i grew up like 1 block from an ice skating rink so I learned and i'm actually pretty good), hell i took one girl on a date, who i ended up quasi dating on just a walk from my car to the river back to my car. that's traditional dating. I'm not saying i never spent money on a girl but if i did it was beucase it was doing something i wanted to do and i included her in it.

you sound like a guy who grew up in church who now that he is grown just goes the 100% other way and becomes (like i did) a militant athiest. just beucase it's the polar opposite of what you were coming from. you need to be at the balance. your disdain for blowing wads of money on women you dont' know is quite healthy. but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
 

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wow backbreaker, You got me all wrong dude.
 

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Women killed dating just like they did chivalry and then blame men for it.

The men who are into the so called "quick hookups" have figured out that this works. Why go on long expensive and boring long dates when you can circumvent all that?!!

I believe that there are still plenty of beta's (I still hear the stories) that ask women out on a "real date" (dinner & movie ie) the traditional way but those guys have a hard time getting laid because of lack of game.

Women then beomoan "ohhh this guy just wanted to have sex and not take me out anywhere for like 4 months, i feel so used & unappericated booo hoooo" SO WHY DID YOU STILL **** HIM!?!?? CLOSE YOUR LEGS BECAUSE IT IS YOU WHO IS TO BLAME!!! YOU COULD HAVE CONTINUE TO GO OUT WITH THE NICE GUY ON A TRADITIONAL DATE BUT WE ALL KNOW YOU JUST WASTED HIS CASH ON EXPENIVE MEALS AND GIFTS WITHOUT LETTING HIM FVCK YOU!! YOU KNEW MORE OR LESS WHAT GETTING INVOLVED WITH A BADBOY WAS ALL ABOUT!! YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!
 

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Howiestern said:
I remember the first date I went on after my divorce. I had it all planned out. I showed up at her place and gave her a rose. Went to Outback by her house.....had some steaks and beer.....blew $70. Then had some balcony box seats for a concert at House of Blues.....blew $85 there on tickets and drinks. The weeks that followed this date consisted of this girl playing every flakey a$$ game in the book. Ohh Lord I was a clueless chump. I do thank her for teaching me to recognize a waste of time. All that traditional dating did was waste my time and money. I got nothing from it other than the presence of an attractive female and thats not really worth much. Thankfully I learned quickly and this was the last time I did something so stupid.
Don't know why a previous poster went off on you. These are very common things to do when you've been out of the game for any length of time.

If I go 6 months without dating for whatever reason.. too much work, too many girlfriends, traveling, whatever... my first date back I always, always go on a sh*tty date where I blow a ton of cash on some b*tch who has no interest in me.

And that's after only a few months out of the game! I can't imagine what a guy would do if he was married for 10 years and had to get back into the game.

After this sh*tty date I wise up and start screening better and get my game back quickly. A couple of weeks after that date I'm back banging chicks with little cash or time outlay. But for some reason my reintroduction to dating after any extended absence is always a date where I blow money and get nothing from it.

It's like me and skiing. When I'm back on the slopes for the first time that season, I feel like I've never been on skis before. I'm tripping over myself, I feel like a retard. It takes me a full day of skiing to get my rhythm back. The next day I'm better and the 3rd day I'm hitting moguls like they're nothing.

EVERY year this happens. Same with dating. You take a few months off and boom, you gotta get your groove back.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Zarky said:
Don't know why a previous poster went off on you. These are very common things to do when you've been out of the game for any length of time.

If I go 6 months without dating for whatever reason.. too much work, too many girlfriends, traveling, whatever... my first date back I always, always go on a sh*tty date where I blow a ton of cash on some b*tch who has no interest in me.

And that's after only a few months out of the game! I can't imagine what a guy would do if he was married for 10 years and had to get back into the game.

After this sh*tty date I wise up and start screening better and get my game back quickly. A couple of weeks after that date I'm back banging chicks with little cash or time outlay. But for some reason my reintroduction to dating after any extended absence is always a date where I blow money and get nothing from it.

It's like me and skiing. When I'm back on the slopes for the first time that season, I feel like I've never been on skis before. I'm tripping over myself, I feel like a retard. It takes me a full day of skiing to get my rhythm back. The next day I'm better and the 3rd day I'm hitting moguls like they're nothing.

EVERY year this happens. Same with dating. You take a few months off and boom, you gotta get your groove back.
i did not go off on him beucase he did those things. **** I did thoose things when i was single (with girls who earned it though)

i went off on him beucase of his equating the things he did with courtship and beucase him equating his failed dating with courtship in general.
 
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