article: The Case For An Older Woman

[MatureDJ]

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-case-for-an-older-woman/

 

[squirrels]

This is a perfect example of people trying to take something that is dirt-simple and turn it into a complicated science.

Men prefer younger women because:

1) Younger women are more likely to give birth to healthy children.
2) Attraction to women is based largely on looks, and younger women's looks are easier to maintain.
3) Men don't feel like putting up with baggage...many older women have baggage, including children from previous marriages.

Women do not typically prefer younger men because:

1) They're stupid. They really can't offer much beyond a d!ck.

Certainly, by putting pictures of genetically gifted or exceptionally well-preserved older women next to typical younger women, you can make the argument that older women are "just as good" as a demographic on a whole.

An attractive older woman has no problem dating. But take a random sample of 100 21-year-old girls and a random sample of 100 41-year-old women and tell me which is more attractive. Of COURSE the stats are going to skew.

This is bad science. In fact, this isn't even science at all. This is "filler".

 

[PappyS]

Older women have to use a lot of "game" to sell themselves because they have trouble competing with younger women. That is why there is so much nonsense like this floating around. Other examples include:

- the claim that women reach their sexual peak in their 40s

- the perversion of the word "pedophilia", which some even apply in cases of young women who are legal adults

And so on.

The truth is a lot of older women aren't even easy. A lot of them are bigger goldiggers and more demanding then younger women.

 

[Kailex]

Give me one good reason why I'd choose a 50 year old over a 30 year old? Hell, I wouldn't choose a 40 year old over a 25 year old.
You couldn't find a SINGLE DAMN REASON FOR ME TO DO SO.

Because the sex is better? Please.

Because she has more experience in life? Right.

Because she'd be less likely to want me for my money? Not guaranteed.

Because she'd be less likely to cheat on me with someone else? Doubt it.

I can't find a single reason why I'd choose someone older than what I could go for. It's not "easier".

I'd rather enjoy the lower "physical mileage" on that 25 year old than the 40 year's REALLY limited window. Sorry, but how many REALLY appealing 50 year olds do you KNOW that aren't in the Hollywood spotlight? I'm pretty sure you could think of a LOT more hot 25 year olds than you can 40 year olds.

And yes, older women come with baggage. It's not always kids. It can be debt, bitterness towards men who like younger women, or the fact that a lot of these older women were women who gave up their twenties in order to fulfill their matriarchal desires. A lot of these "older women" that are out on the prowl are women whose children are now older and now see the free opportunity to become "cougars".

COULD be good for a ONS. But other than that, I don't see myself continually seeing someone past that. I'd rather see that tight 25 year old naked on a consistent basis than that 40 year old who is barely keeping it together.

 

[jophil28]

Give me one good reason why I'd choose a 50 year old over a 30 year old? Hell, I wouldn't choose a 40 year old over a 25 year old.
You couldn't find a SINGLE DAMN REASON FOR ME TO DO SO.

Because the sex is better? Please.

Because she has more experience in life? Right.

Because she'd be less likely to want me for my money? Not guaranteed.

Because she'd be less likely to cheat on me with someone else? Doubt it.

I can't find a single reason why I'd choose someone older than what I could go for. It's not "easier".

I'd rather enjoy the lower "physical mileage" on that 25 year old than the 40 year's REALLY limited window. Sorry, but how many REALLY appealing 50 year olds do you KNOW that aren't in the Hollywood spotlight? I'm pretty sure you could think of a LOT more hot 25 year olds than you can 40 year olds.

And yes, older women come with baggage. It's not always kids. It can be debt, bitterness towards men who like younger women, or the fact that a lot of these older women were women who gave up their twenties in order to fulfill their matriarchal desires. A lot of these "older women" that are out on the prowl are women whose children are now older and now see the free opportunity to become "cougars".

COULD be good for a ONS. But other than that, I don't see myself continually seeing someone past that. I'd rather see that tight 25 year old naked on a consistent basis than that 40 year old who is barely keeping it together.

All true ^
The only positive in dating older women is that their 'flake' rate tends to be much lower.

 

[davewe]

The truth is a lot of older women aren't even easy. A lot of them are bigger goldiggers and more demanding then younger women.

Absolutely! Many women in my age category are as difficult or more difficult to get because:

1. They are self-deluded into thinking they are still great looking.
2. Younger guys sometimes hit on them for sex whihch convinces them of #1.
3. They have such a long list of things that they need to have in a guy that it's tough to meet those needs.

So, I concentrate on women 20+ years younger than me. Granted my batting average isn't great, but it isn't any worse than it was when I strictly focussed on woman close to my age. And when I do get a base hit it sure as hell is more enjoyable!

 

[jophil28]

Absolutely! Many women in my age category are as difficult or more difficult to get because:

1. They are self-deluded into thinking they are still great looking.
2. Younger guys sometimes hit on them for sex whihch convinces them of #1.
3. They have such a long list of things that they need to have in a guy that it's tough to meet those needs.

So, I concentrate on women 20+ years younger than me. Granted my batting average isn't great, but it isn't any worse than it was when I strictly focussed on woman close to my age. And when I do get a base hit it sure as hell is more enjoyable!

Davewe knows ... ^^

 

[RMM]

The comments on that article are awesome. In a "this is so horrible but I can't stop watching" kind of way.

 

[Jitterbug]

The only valid case for an older woman is what Benjamin Franklin wrote to a young man advising him to take an older mistress. Google for that letter, you'll find plenty of links.

 

[sodbuster]

well, the 40's and 50's have ALL the same attitude problems associated with the young ones-usually just covered up by fat.

 

[jophil28]

well, the 40's and 50's have ALL the same attitude problems associated with the young ones-usually just covered up by fat.

" Like mother like daughter " ??

Women's thought processes about their looks and market value , and their subsequent self beliefs, are proof positive that perception is NOT reality.

 

[Todd Preston]

Good post davewe!

Absolutely! Many women in my age category are as difficult or more difficult to get because:

1. They are self-deluded into thinking they are still great looking.
2. Younger guys sometimes hit on them for sex whihch convinces them of #1.
3. They have such a long list of things that they need to have in a guy that it's tough to meet those needs.

So, I concentrate on women 20+ years younger than me. Granted my batting average isn't great, but it isn't any worse than it was when I strictly focussed on woman close to my age. And when I do get a base hit it sure as hell is more enjoyable!

 

[SoldMySoul]

well, the 40's and 50's have ALL the same attitude problems associated with the young ones-usually just covered up by fat.

Uh huh!!!! Not to mention a hell of a lot more issues and baggage from the years.

 

[Jeffst1980]

"But at the same time, for the vast majority of men, the best-looking women are simply out of reach, so it's actually accurate to exclude them as possibilities."

^^^That's a hint that we are not the intended audience for this article.

For an AFC, however, the logic in this article makes a lot of sense. AFCs will have a MUCH easier time with older women on dating websites simply because they are more attainable. Even an average 24 year old woman on a dating website will receive TONS of messages, and therefore can afford to be pickier than she probably would when dating in the conventional sense. I wouldn't take too much offense here; the author even seems to acknowledge that older women aren't as desirable and has a bit of a sense of humor about it.

The "cougar" movement, however,--where older women will focus EXCLUSIVELY on younger men--seems completely contrived. Despite the ego boosts and excitement from violating social norms, there's always going to be the elephant in the room: if a "cougar" is dating a guy that wants a family someday (which is the majority of men), the relationship is almost certainly going to be a finite one that will not lead to marriage. For a woman to insist that this situation is ideal smacks of self-delusion. Furthermore, younger men are almost certainly going to lack the maturity and social status that women find attractive.

The reality of the situation is that age is a handicap for women, but certainly not an insurmountable one, as many older women still get married to relatively successful men. The analogous case is the guy with low social status and limited financial means that nonetheless scores an HB with the help of some game. Everyone has their handicaps, but in a number's game, the only significant one is a lack of effort.