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Article: Testosterone testing is totally bogus
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lost_blackbird
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Uh oh!
Pierce Manhammer
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As the author relates in the article the labs use "normal for age and population" ranges to show the "normal" ranges. That means if you're in an area where people have low-normal values for T or free-T the ranges will be smaller. I've spoken to my urologist about my eventual drop in hormones (I'm in my 50's) and he's totally pro-TRT, and gung-ho to start even now even with my pg/nL numbers are high normal for my age. I'm going to hold off a little yet, but I'll go there when the time comes.
FlexpertHamilton
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I've pointed out similar things that the author talked about, and most people have nothing to say. Oh just get your T levels tested man! As if they know what any the results mean (or as if the medical staff has a clue either).
It's literally worthless to get your T levels tested at any traditional clinic. You need to see a specialist ie endocrinologist or any self-taught expert who actually understands how T works and how to measure it effectively.
The article didn't even talk about the confounding measurements of free T, total T, bioavailable T, and how they relate to albumin and SHBG (*hint* high total/free T doesn't mean necessarily mean anything on its own). If you bring any of this up to the medical staff, their only response is to insist the levels are "normal" - they literally have no other response except to continually parrot the tests are "normal" (also failing to recognize that the reference ranges, as the author points out, are a cluster****)
The medical industry is completely ignorant, they don't ****ing know anything. No one gives a **** about mens health, let alone their T levels.
It's literally worthless to get your T levels tested at any traditional clinic. You need to see a specialist ie endocrinologist or any self-taught expert who actually understands how T works and how to measure it effectively.
The article didn't even talk about the confounding measurements of free T, total T, bioavailable T, and how they relate to albumin and SHBG (*hint* high total/free T doesn't mean necessarily mean anything on its own). If you bring any of this up to the medical staff, their only response is to insist the levels are "normal" - they literally have no other response except to continually parrot the tests are "normal" (also failing to recognize that the reference ranges, as the author points out, are a cluster****)
The medical industry is completely ignorant, they don't ****ing know anything. No one gives a **** about mens health, let alone their T levels.
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Pierce Manhammer
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You are correct in general, there are however men's health practitioners that DO get it. They are often not in HMO's where most men get their healthcare. You have to be informed to some extent and select a practitioner that gets it.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
FlexpertHamilton
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I was mostly referring to general practice places, but yes I'm sure endocrinologists and other specialists can understand this stuff.