Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Well, isn't the 40something woman just following the "DJ principle" of presenting value? Of course, when one does that, one should maintain believability. That applies to us, as well as women.ketostix said:A 40-something year surgeon who's over-valued herself
Not true. Katharine McPhee just married some dude about 20 years older than her...iqqi said:I hate to break it to you, but most younger women find older men nasty and gross, the same way you all seem to find older women nasty and gross.
The same reasons why SOME younger women are attracted to older men are the SAME reasons that some younger men are attracted to older women.
You get old, nasty, and wrinkly too.
And yes, many women view older men who "prey" on younger women as pathetic and creepy.
The double standard is narrowing down. Why do you care so much?
wayword said:Not true. Katharine McPhee just married some dude about 20 years older than her...
Being an attractive AI winner, I'm sure she could have chosen any much younger guy, if she wanted to. And it's not like she just wants money, since she has her own lucrative career now.
It's just natural for younger women to prefer older men and vice-versa. Most all women prefer older men - the only difference is in how much older. About the only ones who prefer younger ones are old cougars with few options trying to recapture their youth .
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You're pretty sharp there iqqi, but I didn't say his grandmother was trying to eliminate her competition. That would be obvious to anyone but you.iqqi said:Lol... YEAH, his grandmother is trying to eliminate her competition?! Get real.
Some people really don't think that an age gap that spans decades is right. Men and women!
Hahahahaaaa........eeeeeeee......"PREYING on the young" huh?iqqi said:Preying on the young, trying to recapture their youth.
i don't think it is wrong, but many people do. for many reasons.STR8UP said:You're pretty sharp there iqqi, but I didn't say his grandmother was trying to eliminate her competition. That would be obvious to anyone but you.
And please, enlighten us, exactly WHY is it wrong? He couldn't explain it, and I would bet that neither can you.
Riiiight, the day some 22 year old doesn't flake on you and gives you ANY play at all will be the day people here might take YOUR advice a little more seriously. I can't believe you tried to pull that one!STR8UP said:Hahahahaaaa........eeeeeeee......"PREYING on the young" huh?
I'll try to feel bad next time a 22 yr old has her lips around my d!ck.
Let this stand as proof positive that your advice here has zero credibility.
That's easy most women are airheads independent of the age of the man their datingiqqi said:i don't think it is wrong, but many people do. for many reasons.
Here is something else to chew on: How come the younger women with older men tend to be airheads?
Yet the younger men who are with older women tend to be extremely intelligent?
Interesting? I think so.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
"Gross"?? I don't understand that.iqqi said:And yes, when I see a 50 year old with a 20 something (man or woman), I do think "gross". I guess that is sort of shallow, but most women would have the same reaction.
The 22 yr old that is madly in love with me is one of the smartest, wittiest people I have ever known. Actually, NONE of the younger women I have been with have been airheads.Here is something else to chew on: How come the younger women with older men tend to be airheads?
You are delusional.STR8UP said:The 22 yr old that is madly in love with me is one of the smartest, wittiest people I have ever known. Actually, NONE of the younger women I have been with have been airheads.
Like i didn't know this was coming.iqqi said:Riiiight, the day some 22 year old doesn't flake on you and gives you ANY play at all will be the day people here might take YOUR advice a little more seriously. I can't believe you tried to pull that one!
I'm pretty sure that no one talked about older women being "sad and pathetic" for "preying" on anyone. It was about them living in DENIAL as to why they aren't getting any.Also, I am just saying that it goes both ways. Just like you guys are all on here talking about how sad and pathetic it is for "cougars" to "prey" on younger men, women are talking about YOU! The same way!
Everyone is "using" everyone else. Your point?Most younger chicks with older men are USING them anyways, and not for their hot bodies.
Has it hit a nerve? Or are you really just a joke?STR8UP said:Like i didn't know this was coming.
I don't have anything to prove to anyone. I've fukked or fooled around with several women in the 20-22 range over the past couple of years.....I know I can still pull that age range.
Matter of fact thats the running joke with all of my older female friends. I wonder why they keep bringing it up? Because it hits a nerve, that's why.
Lol... like yourself?STR8UP said:I'm pretty sure that no one talked about older women being "sad and pathetic" for "preying" on anyone. It was about them living in DENIAL as to why they aren't getting any.
Well, I rejected her (for a relationship), she moved out of state to attend school partially because of it, now she is back in the state applying to go to uni in my city.iqqi said:And as far as the 22 year old that is madly in love with you... give me a break!!! Where is THAT one? What is the story THERE? WHERE is she, sir? Not with you? THAT is love.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You won't stop until you throw ALL of the bullsh!t out there, will you?iqqi said:Has it hit a nerve? Or are you really just a joke?
And "I can still pull that..." = old man trying to recapture his youth.
"Deciding not to settle".....LOLAnd this whole thread is about bashing older women who decide not to settle. This whole thread is pathetic.
No, if you weren't so hellbent on throwing rocks at me you would realize that the reason why I haven't been getting any has to do mainly with the fact that until about a month ago i was basically working the equivalent of 2 full time jobs.iqqi said:Lol... like yourself?
Sorry it was TOO easy.
And isn't the victim role the one played by women?STR8UP said:No, if you weren't so hellbent on throwing rocks at me...
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.