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After sex, around 5 in the morning she asks if I could call her a cab.
The nights before, we'd been together at my place until very late, and I'd dropped her back. Last night, I told her I couldn't be bothered to go and come back from her place, and I wasn't going to let her go back in a cab on her own at that hour. So she should just crash at mine.
She persisted, and tried a few times to kiss me. I refused to kiss her, and told her that things weren't working because she didn't know how to say yes and listen to me.
She kept persisting to kiss me, but I stood my ground. Eventually, with tears in her eyes she ran to the door. At that point feeling somewhat guilty, I called a cab. She told me that I should not go with her, despite this I went with her. We made out in the cab on the way back, and she's coming to see me tonight, so all well in that respect, but should I apologise?
I don't know whether I came across as a man standing his ground or a spoilt brat... :crazy:
 

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styleman said:
After sex, around 5 in the morning she asks if I could call her a cab.
The nights before, we'd been together at my place until very late, and I'd dropped her back. Last night, I told her I couldn't be bothered to go and come back from her place, and I wasn't going to let her go back in a cab on her own at that hour. So she should just crash at mine.
She persisted, and tried a few times to kiss me. I refused to kiss her, and told her that things weren't working because she didn't know how to say yes and listen to me.
She kept persisting to kiss me, but I stood my ground. Eventually, with tears in her eyes she ran to the door. At that point feeling somewhat guilty, I called a cab. She told me that I should not go with her, despite this I went with her. We made out in the cab on the way back, and she's coming to see me tonight, so all well in that respect, but should I apologise?
I don't know whether I came across as a man standing his ground or a spoilt brat... :crazy:
Apologise for what? Past is past man, just enjoy a night with your girlfriend, don't bring it up. Although if it's eating at you then tell her exactly how you felt. I believe you came across as a man standing his ground but you gave into her. It's not a big deal anyways. But remember if you don't agree with something, tell her. Which evidently you did do and honesty is the most attractive thing in a relationship.
 

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so she doesnt sleep at your place? Why wouldnt she just sleep there regardless? You sounded like a brat saying that and selfish but its up to you if you wanna apologize. Just say sorry real fast and thats it with no discussion
 

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so she doesnt sleep at your place? Why wouldnt she just sleep there regardless? You sounded like a brat saying that and selfish but its up to you if you wanna apologize. Just say sorry real fast and thats it with no discussion
I honestly don't know why she doesn't.
 

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One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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Yea when a girl says they want to do something regardless let them do it. Then you decide if you want to stick around or not if they do it. They wanna be stupid then let them. its their mistake not yours. My gf does stupid azz sh1t she had a dui already and wanted to drive somewhere the other weekened cause she got p1ssed and I said no cause she was drunk. Then the next thing I know im called possessive and controlling. So then again she got stupid and drunk and wanted to leave. I said fine and went to bed didnt say no or chase her when she was leaving nor called or texted her. Then at 5 am she texts and says im at so and so houses and im ok....well i didnt even ask her anything I was sleeping...then the next morning shes calling me up and wondering why i didnt answer. She responded because I wasnt controlling and saying no. Let them do what they want and you decide if you want to bother with them after. Bottom line dont say yes or no and act like their parents.
 

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You shouldnt apologize at all.

Personally i think you shouldnt have called her the cab at all, since you said that you wouldnt then you should have continued to stand your ground.

Either change your mind in the first place or dont call the cab at all. It looks like you caved into her tears. It did seem a bit controlling too, but hey.

But its ok now, no need to go apologize if things are fine. Aplogizing for caring for her wellbeing (allbeit a tad controlling perhaps) would be wussy.
 

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Am I the only one here missing why this guy wants to apologize? Please tell us what you're going to apologize for...
 
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