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Arguing and attempting to persuade women = EPIC FAIL

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A private message I got a while back:

persuading and arguing help

Hey,

I've been wondering because I am often in arguements with women. But what i never seem to understand is what is the easiest way to argue. The only reason i am is because i actively put in these situations to learn the best way.

However I still don't seem to know the best method. I was wondering if you can give me some advice and guidance since you seem a bit wiser than me.

An example is: a girl is in same social circle as mine. She starts chatting to my mate. he backstabs me and asks her out. she says no because shes with me. however i had told her to stop speaking to him. i withdrew my contact from her. her interest level is high. but even im lost on this. the arguements over for this. but what should be the best method?

also for example at telling someone you dont like something about them? e.g *****iness?


I follow actions and not words. However communicating to women ideas and arguing. I just have lost it. Its costing me badly, i've been with 4 plates in the last 3 months and i keep getting it wrong. Please help.

Thanks

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So, what is the best way to argue with and persuade women?

It is very simple: don’t even waste your time trying!

If you feel the need to verbally argue with or persuade a woman, you’re either losing control of the relationship or never were in control. And logic means nothing to a woman: only feelings matter.

Arguing or persuading shows that you give a damn, and as we know, whoever cares least controls the relationship.

Would a guy who had 10 chicks on the go at once put up with b/s from one of them, or would he cut his losses and move on?

Exactly! And that is the mindset you must be willing to cultivate, willingness to walk away if it is in your best long-term interests.

Two key points:

1) If a woman is attracted to you, you can do (almost) anything and she will rationalise it to put you in a good light.

2) If a woman is NOT attracted to you, nothing you do, or no matter how good your argue about something, she will rationalise it to put you in a bad light.

So instead of wasting your time learning some BS Dr Phil rules for how to argue with women, forget it and focus on being the best and most attractive man you can be.


Examples:


If a girl talks to a friend of yours and hooks up with him, don’t waste your time arguing or trying to convince her to stay. Move on, and if she comes crawling back, bang her then leave her again.

If a girl starts getting fat or is a b!tch, don’t waste time trying to convince her to change. Show you have other options, and if she doesn’t get the hint, dump her and move on.

Actions not words are all that matter. And attraction will override all logic in a woman’s mind. Be that attractive man!
 

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getting the number

so this girl im'd me on fb chat calling me by some weird nickname..now she was in my undergrad school but we didnt talk to each other ever but she was on my fb friend list..so i asked ''excuse me ?''

she replies that it was my name and their group used to call me that..so i asked if her group used to secretly check me out..she said no dont assume things..we had names for everyone..i said ohk..im just pulling your leg..she kinda flirted with me a lil about my looks and i responded in kind....then we engaged in small talks and it turns out we have a few mutual friends(all girls)..i kept things funny and was getting a good vibe but she was taking too long to reply back..so i teased her on the fact that she takes too long to type and if she used any other messenger..after a minute or so she went offline..i was hoping too ask for her number while getting her email but it didnt come to that..any advice how to handle this..i used to have a crush on her during my underschool days
 

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sinnerman said:
so this girl im'd me on fb chat calling me by some weird nickname..now she was in my undergrad school but we didnt talk to each other ever but she was on my fb friend list..so i asked ''excuse me ?''

she replies that it was my name and their group used to call me that..so i asked if her group used to secretly check me out..she said no dont assume things..we had names for everyone..i said ohk..im just pulling your leg..she kinda flirted with me a lil about my looks and i responded in kind....then we engaged in small talks and it turns out we have a few mutual friends(all girls)..i kept things funny and was getting a good vibe but she was taking too long to reply back..so i teased her on the fact that she takes too long to type and if she used any other messenger..after a minute or so she went offline..i was hoping too ask for her number while getting her email but it didnt come to that..any advice how to handle this..i used to have a crush on her during my underschool days
Best advice: forget her and go after other girls.

Your comment about her taking so long to reply may have come off the wrong way i.e. as needy and insecure. Be careful about using this stuff online.


Your alternative course of action:

On facebook, send her a (private) message saying something along the lines of "hey, enjoyed our chat, lets catch up some time...what's your number?"

Keep it simple..if she is interested, she will give you her number; if not, at least you'll not waste a lot of time on her. Move on if that's the case.
 

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Solomon said:
Runner your on a roll, start a blog already mate!

lol
Ha ha, no can do mate!

Started working on site again, about 12 hours a day including travel, living away from my usual town.

I'm still having to do physio to try and get my previously broken arm back to normal (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=181483&page=3) which is about 1.5 hours a day on top of that.

Plus I have a girl I'm seeing back in my town who I'll be seeing on the weekends (might try to duck down once during the week as well :up:) so may not have much spare time on the weekends either....ha ha
 
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