"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Arggghhh... David DeAngelo and his LOSER ad...

Atom Smasher

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Every time I come to SS lately I see this big ad with a picture of a woman making the "L" sign (for "loser") over her forehead.

It's DeAngelo's "Double Your Dating". I went to the site and tried to send a rebuke for creating ads disrespecting men, and the site very cleverly filters out such emails and doesn't allow them to be delivered.

Are you guys getting this ad too, or am I the only "loser" here? :cuss:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If a woman did that to me I'd have zero interest in her and either ignore her or tell her to fVck off, depending on the circumstances. That particular ad also tells me that this guy is not a self-respecting man. If you're encouraging men to try to win over these kinds of women (disrespectful, with a bad attitude), then you need to work on yourself. You're either a snake of a salesman and only care about marketing to sell your product or you're a wimp who feels like you should try to win over these kinds of low-quality women.

If you're trying to convey a positive message in your products, then you shouldn't use advertising that implies or subcommunicates the opposite of the message you supposedly believe in. You're either a marketing hypocrite who worships the dollar and will compromise what you believe in, just to make a buck, or you're a weak-minded fool. Just my two-cents.
 

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You've nailed it. Very well said. We lost Eben (David D) long ago. He's a genius marketer but doesn't give a crap about the realities that men face.

Anyway, repped.

Edit: No soup for you. Looks like I've got to spread a little love elsewhere first. Good post.
 

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Yeah, it's disgusting to look at
 

Who Dares Win

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I get the same ad Atom, and I find it disturbing as well.

I realize that he doesnt give a fvck about men and in order to "double his wallet" is ready to use those same insecurities which sabotaged the emotional life of many men, because lets talk honestly most men self esteem is fvcked up because of cvnts like that at high school.

Sure we have sosuave which unveil the truth but most guys dont and still suffer because of it, well I find it unfair to play on people fear and insecurities in order to get their money, thats not market or a purchase thats no different than blackmail and manipulation.

And most of all those behaviours should not be accepted nor encouraged, wheter its a L on a forehead or any other sign of cvntitude, its just useless cruelty.

Let me be clear marketing by itself is a discipline about manipulation but a thing is that ad which shows a sexy girl and says "be the bad guy girls love" and an other different thing is push back to their high school time
some lonely guys and stress them about it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You guys are ALL losers. Because you don't have Google Chrome's AdBlock installed.
 

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It's amazing to think a guy who's only had two girlfriend's in his life still rakes in millions of dollars selling dating advice.
 

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sageproduct said:
You guys are ALL losers. Because you don't have Google Chrome's AdBlock installed.
You, my friend, are a marketing genius. ::Holds an L up to his forehead and points to self:: Shame on me! :p
 

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sageproduct said:
You guys are ALL losers. Because you don't have Google Chrome's AdBlock installed.
Yep!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Who Dares Win

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I dont think those ads are based on location, unless of course Atom was visiting central Europe back then.
 
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Am I the only one that sees agency ads with numbers in my area code? Aside from the ads with generic chicks, of course.

Time to take out the tinfoil hat.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Edit: No soup for you. Looks like I've got to spread a little love elsewhere first. Good post.
Ooh Yeah baby spread your love on me!:cool:
 

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yup i have adblocker with firefox, i dont see any ads at all, its great
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I saw that ad and I thought same thing, using sh1t like that to try sell stuff is disgusting.
 

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The_DukeDEvlin said:
It's amazing to think a guy who's only had two girlfriend's in his life still rakes in millions of dollars selling dating advice.
He was an armchair guru and a closet homo who made millions rehashing info. from other PUA's and seduction forums. David D. is a marketing genius and nothing more. I saw photos of him with his wife. He's too damn ugly to be a player.
 

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Those ads are served up by Google. They are extremely easy to track and measure ROI. Which means that regardless of your own personal feelings about that ad, it's working.

meaning that enough guys are clicking on it, and ending up buying his stuff, that it's making him more money than it costs him to have it displayed.

As far as rehashing information, that's pretty much what every entrepreneur has done since the dawn of time. Pepsi copied coke, Whopper copied Big Mac, and iPod copied Walkman.

That's what I absolutely love about the free market. For every guy who looks at that ad and thinks, "that's absolutely disgusting," there's probably plenty of guys who clicked on it, bought some of his products, and found them useful on some level.

Anybody can sell anything so long as there's people willing to pay.

God Bless Capitalism!
 

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Modern life is driven by emotions, and specifically fear.

X political party wants your vote so they can keep Y from destroying country!
Y political party wants your vote so X doesn't pass super evil bill against your rights!
You are going to raped in your own home! Buy this complex alarm system which basically calls the police!
You will look ugly unless you get the new Jordans, Coach, Versace, Rolex, insert material good here!
Women are mystical creatures who think mysteriously and luckily my magical ebook tells you exactly how to decode them!

Even on SoSuave you can see it. Theoretically arguing and debate should be based on logic and not emotions, but time and time has shown again that it starts with emotion, then you use logic to support the position you derived from your emotions. It's the rationalization hamster of society. DeAngelo is using that just like every other marketer, politician, person who wants something from you whether its your vote, time or your money.
 

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Marketing 101:

Step 1: Make prospect feel bad emotionally
Step 2: Offer product that will fix emotional need
Step 3: Profit
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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