Ringleader41
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I wasnt planning on it since she wasnt attractive but Im getting horny and its been like 3 days since .
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
what kind of conversation should you have with her the day after? as in how long what should you just say?Aristippus said:You should ALWAYS call a woman the next day unless she was some random one-night stand that you're never going to see again. Otherwise, women can be insecure about their sexual prowess/performance and attractiveness. When you call the day after, it's one way of letting her know you had a good time with her. It also makes her feel good about the interaction. It completes it and doesn't make her feel like you were simply using her.
For some reason, even if her only interest is to have crazy sex with you, women still feel used if you don't bother to call. Basically, to sum up, even with women who are nothing more than your personal sex toys, if you don't call, she will feel used and unattractive and like she didn't do it for you in the bedroom. If she had any insecurities about her body, she might feel like you didn't like something about her body. Unfortunately, you already haven't called and it's been 3 days.
I've never NOT called the day after if I was planning on seeing a woman again, so I can't tell you from experience what will happen but since you didn't call the day after, I have a feeling you'll have a difficult time getting her to respond to you or getting her in the bedroom again. Give it a try and let us know what happens, good or bad. It will help the other guys on here learn.
st_99 said:I've had mixed results. Girls that I liked and i called the next day decided to LJBF me and then girls that I didn't care much about, did not call them and they chased me and wanted me.
So, your guess is as good as mine.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
How long? It really doesn't have to be a long conversation. It doesn't have to be a speech. You don't have to (and shouldn't) profess your undying love or anything like that. A short conversation is better. You simply call her up and tell her that you really enjoyed last night.pete101 said:what kind of conversation should you have with her the day after? as in how long what should you just say?
the mistake i made was i may sound too keen or desperate or trying to have it again that day or wanting something more than just sex.
Ringleader41 said:Last question, how do you know if she enjoyed it. I told her i was a virgin too
Dear no, I was a virgin and she was a sloot that attacked me and I was scared of baby names so i told her I was one. Also she was really slippery and she said she wouldve never guessed i was a virgin.Aristippus said:A woman can lie with her lips but her body never lies. If she was extremely wet, then there's no doubt that she enjoyed it.... So you were both virgins. Ok. Call her if you haven't already. Better to call late than to never call. Especially if she lost her virginity to you.
Just tell her you'd like to see her again. Let the sex come as a natural result of you both just enjoying being with each other. Once you start holding hands and then start kissing and making out, it can easily go from there to sex. No need to talk about it. Just let your bodies do the talking.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I told her I was a virgin afterwardsAristippus said:Ok. She wanted to corrupt you. hahaha Good. Sometimes you'll find an experienced woman who wants to corrupt a virgin. Anyway, just call her up to get together some time. Don't mention sex. Just get together for a drink or invite her to your place to watch a movie. Tell her you had fun the other night.
Play the innocent card though. hahaha It worked for you so far. Just spend time alone with her and let her attack you. Let her get off on "corrupting" you..... I know, I'm a sly devil.
Of course you are. And don't forget to send flowers to her at her at her work and call her every 15 minutes leaving messages about how much she means to you and that you can't wait to see her again.Ringleader41 said:Are you suppose to contact the girl the day after sex
Hilarious quote, I wholeheartedly agree with the sarcastic undertone. However, I don't agree with this:sarcastic sam said:Of course you are. And don't forget to send flowers to her at her at her work and call her every 15 minutes leaving messages about how much she means to you and that you can't wait to see her again. Works every time.
This is why so many guys here are FAILING with women. They don't want to do anything that may make her emotional state go up and down like a roller coaster, yet that's what they NEED to be doing in order to make women fall for them.Aristippus said:You should ALWAYS call a woman the next day unless she was some random one-night stand that you're never going to see again. Otherwise, women can be insecure about their sexual prowess/performance and attractiveness.
Incorrect. The way you let her know you had a good time on "sex" day is when you call her up 3 to 4 days later and ask for another date or invite to hang out. She'll be so relieved you called, you're more apt to get a "yes" from her than if you had called the next day.Aristippus said:When you call the day after, it's one way of letting her know you had a good time with her. It also makes her feel good about the interaction. It completes it and doesn't make her feel like you were simply using her.
But you are going to call - just not the day immediately after sex. Again, give her those days to think about you, which will only build up interest, and THEN call her. Let her think you're busy - girls like guys who seem to have a life outside of them, while at the same time make them wait to hear from him again.Aristippus said:For some reason, even if her only interest is to have crazy sex with you, women still feel used if you don't bother to call...
Again, her insecurity is not YOUR problem. It's HER problem. And, more often times than not, her "problem" is only going to make her try even harder to get you. By not calling right away, she'll think she has competition, which will make her do all she can to "win" you.Aristippus said:...if you don't call, she will feel used and unattractive and like she didn't do it for you in the bedroom. If she had any insecurities about her body, she might feel like you didn't like something about her body.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.