Are You Strong Enough?

[origin138]

I've been trying to think of a way to articulate this thought, and I'm finding it tricky, so bear with me. I've heard multiple women say the following in many a context:

"I need a man who is strong enough to handle me."
"If he can't handle me I'll find someone who can."
“If he can’t handle me then screw him.”
Sheryl Crow: "Are you strong enough to be my man?"

It seems that, more often than not, it's some HB7+ saying it. At what point does this become a cop out on the part of the woman as a way of avoiding making herself a better person? Does our society reinforce the statements above by teaching women that finding a partner is ACTUALLY just a quest for locating the ultimate beta tool that will put up with any amount of crap she can muster up?

At what point does the alpha's intolerance for bad behavior and red flags become his weakness and transform into the beta's strength in that the beta will take any ration of BS a woman can throw at him?

What are these women really saying when they make remarks like this?

 

[Burroughs]

What are these women really saying when they make remarks like this?

In womanspeak it means:

"I may be a lousy piece of $hit, bipolar, whatever but guess what I don't care..I am hot enough (or so I think) to behave anyway I like and I believe that men will constantly line up to service my stinking snatch and gobble up any liquid that drips from it any time of day regardless of my behavior and if and when I get married society and the courts will protect me and give me my man's hard won income. My man might be gandhi and I may be a hairdresser but society favors me in every way shape and form."

And guess what they are right. Men are so hypnotized by puzzy they will put up with almost anything to get it.

It always surprises me that women who have so much more to gain financially from a relationship have flipped the script and convinced men that it is they who need to be married....and men fall for it. Thats the reason ultimatums like 'deal with me' even enter the zeitgeist.

 

[MasterFuu]

I think some woman know how screwed up they are and require a man to keep them in check. That's what this original comment means in my opinion. There are pretty normal girls out there that are less drama. For someone like me that is what I'm looking for now.
My last relationship was with a mentally unstable woman with lot of issues. It drove me crazy and it fell apart as I thought it would. " Are you strong enough for me?" comment would apply for my ex type of woman. Can you take her BS and **** tests on weekly or bi-weekly basis? Can you keep her in check as she is trying to bend your frame? That's the question to be asked.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

"I need a man who is strong enough to handle me."
"If he can't handle me I'll find someone who can."
“If he can’t handle me then screw him.”
Sheryl Crow: "Are you strong enough to be my man?"

What are these women really saying when they make remarks like this?

Any of the above statements could also mean:

"I know I'm "off my rocker", "out of order", "out of order", and in need of psychological and/or emotional counseling-----BUT I'm STILL delusional enough to think that all of these negative traits make me sexy, sassy, and attractive to clinically sane men who have their "shyt" together."

By the way, they are WRONG, of course.

 

[Mike32ct]

I think some woman know how screwed up they are and require a man to keep them in check. That's what this original comment means in my opinion.

This^. You would be surprised how many girls admit to being a b@tch and are almost proud of it. It's like a badge of honor.

"I KNOW I'm a b@tch. So what?" = Instead of growing up and NOT being a b@tch, I prefer a guy to keep me in check.

 

[penkitten]

it's an emotional sh!t test.
even cavewomen wanted "strong in the head" men.

 

[Tortendieb]

So she indicates that she may be difficult to handle.

Either way I'd agree it's a sh!t test, but if she is indeed difficult to handle, you will find out. No use thinking about some line she said. Might even be a canned line she saw in some movie and thought it's cool.

 

[Atom Smasher]

In the past I've responded to this by saying, "The question is not am I strong enough to handle any given women, but rather, would I be stupid enough to even be attracted to a women who considers herself someone who needs to be handled? Why would I wast my time when there are quality women out there?". Instant respect. Funny how that works.

 

[zekko]

Does our society reinforce the statements above by teaching women that finding a partner is ACTUALLY just a quest for locating the ultimate beta tool that will put up with any amount of crap she can muster up?

I agree with Master Fuu. Sounds more like she's wanting an alpha male to come along and put her in her place. Whether or not the alpha would bother with her is another question.

I like Atom Smasher's response. Nip the BS in the bud.

 

[Tortendieb]

In the past I've responded to this by saying, "The question is not am I strong enough to handle any given women, but rather, would I be stupid enough to even be attracted to a women who considers herself someone who needs to be handled? Why would I wast my time when there are quality women out there?". Instant respect. Funny how that works.

Very nice, BUT that would of course be end of conversation and you'll walk away. Right? So the "respect" you earned is of questionable value... if it's intended as just a neg hit, then it's too strong at least for me.

Then again if her hot friends are watching, it could be a different story

 

[Serg897]

Very nice, BUT that would of course be end of conversation and you'll walk away. Right? So the "respect" you earned is of questionable value... if it's intended as just a neg hit, then it's too strong at least for me.

Then again if her hot friends are watching, it could be a different story

Irrelevant. You are still playing into her frame. You are still seeing her as a prize. There is nothing worthy nor desirable about such a woman. You WANT to walk away from a woman like this.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Very nice, BUT that would of course be end of conversation and you'll walk away. Right? So the "respect" you earned is of questionable value... if it's intended as just a neg hit, then it's too strong at least for me.

Then again if her hot friends are watching, it could be a different story

Nope, I haven't had one walk away yet. It is true that certain people can get away with certain things, and perhaps my methods wouldn't work for everybody, but when I say that comments like this garner respect I mean that the woman is intrigued and actually CAN'T walk away.

It's all about personality and delivery. I would imagine that it would be difficult for someone who is very young to do this. When you get a little older you develop a stronger frame and subconsciously "telegraph" that strength to others. That's because you're much more confident, you know who you are and what you want, and you realize how little you have to lose if someone rejects you. It's similar to classic negotiation skills. The one with the least amount to lose usually wins.