"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Are YOU an AFC?

Cry For Love

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Be honest and dont forget to reply to inflate your e-ego

**** wanted to make this a poll but pressed wrong button. :(
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hughman

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I'm just a chump now - not frustrated, but I'm still to see my full potential ; )
 

Cry For Love

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The point is, when there have been those "how many girls have you banged" polls, half the guys have voted for "none" and yet now, no one admits they're chumps. Even though self-help and admitting mistakes and acknowledging that they must be addressed is an essential part of the DJ path
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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omkara

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I am a classic AFC, I think. Or maybe I'm a BAFC. Unfortunately, I am a sensitive guy. Every time I really like a girl, I somehow forget everything I have read here and decide to tell her that I like her. And that ruins everything. This has happened to me like 5 times in the past year. When I'm talking to a girl that I am barely interested in, or practicing my game on, I usually do pretty well.

I think this is because I have been single for a long time, so when I finally meet a girl that I like, I tend to rush things. Most of them meet so many guys, that to them it is no big deal, even if they do like me. So in this way I am conveying my desperation.

I know this doesn't work, but at the same time it annoys me that this type of sincerity is actually a drawback when it comes to dating. I could care less about people's social status. If a girl has what I am looking for, whether physically or intellectually, then I like her. I am not going to be influenced by insignificant psychological effects like whether she compliments me or not, or whether she pays for my drink. But then again I am an intelligent and rational person. Most women are... I wouldn't say stupid, but they are obviously influenced by their emotions and situational effects. If you are a total douchebag, and you present yourself to them like, 'hey I'm the greatest guy in the world,' then they will probably believe you, to some extent. And if you do have a lot going for you but you are like, 'hey, i'm really not that great,' then they will basically ignore you.

I do think there is a way to be modest, and still be confident and strong. It's not necessary to abandon higher values just to get women. I mean that's kind of the concept of being a Don Juan right? At least that is my version of it. I just need to stop making weak AFC moves like showing neediness, or telling girls that I think they're hot, or that I like them, when we've only gone out once.
 
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I am not what you call an AFC, but i am not a master. Most of my friends call me a ladiesman but i don't see myself as one, im just an adventurous guy who has a spontaneous, fun attitude. I hate the ladiesman label thou because anytime your talking to a Cutie,they think your gaming them, an you can't talk to their girlfriends without them poking fun, and playfully saying "NO FLIRTING!".

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Come join me and share your thoughts at my Approach Journal and Fun Times Thread
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=159172[/SIZE]
 

DonJuan11

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Cry For Love said:
The point is, when there have been those "how many girls have you banged" polls, half the guys have voted for "none" and yet now, no one admits they're chumps. Even though self-help and admitting mistakes and acknowledging that they must be addressed is an essential part of the DJ path
Don't you know? Everyone knows everything on this site, doesn't matter if they've slept with a girl or not. They can give out advice like no one's business, but wont' take their own.
 

intrextrovert

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Not really, in the sense of "nice guys" and what you'd think.

I **** up plenty of game though.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dust 2 Dust

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I'm not an AFC, but I'm not a PUA either. I simply have a low tolerance for BS and I won't put up with a woman's crap. If I had to label myself I'd say I'm just a man being a real man.
 

cool dude

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What is an afc? Is there a place where I can look up all these terms,because they are always being used on these forums.
 

Interceptor

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AFC stands for Average Frustrated Chump.
 

omkara

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cool dude said:
What is an afc? Is there a place where I can look up all these terms,because they are always being used on these forums.
Here is one list of common acronyms and slang related to the seduction community: http://forums.becomingapua.com/index.php?topic=777.0

I actually find urbandictionary.com to be more useful, as it is more generalized. Pretty much if you can't find something defined on there, it must be really, really obscure.
 

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I was a huge AFC, but now I've improved a ton, and my whole life has improved, not just in women. Being a DJ is truly, being happy with your life, and that if you are, you can get the women.

I wouldn't say im an amazing DJ, but I'm going strong on my way there, and I have better game than everyone at school, except for maybe 1 person.

Thank god I found this site at 15, It will help me later in life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm a situational AFC/DJ.

Sometimes I can go to a party, get the hottest chick, everybody around me, life of the party.

Or then sit in a corner and be the most shy guy in the entire bar.

I can tell you that it pisses me off big time.
 

cool dude

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Perfect10 said:
I'm a situational AFC/DJ.

Sometimes I can go to a party, get the hottest chick, everybody around me, life of the party.

Or then sit in a corner and be the most shy guy in the entire bar.

I can tell you that it pisses me off big time.
werd to that brotha,I understand that.I hate when that happens.
 
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