"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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Are women only attracted to men who can physically protect them?

tsmith2334

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Hey, I'm a confident, good looking, and funny guy if I do say myself. Girls seem to like me, I tend to notice a lot of IOIs in most of my interactions. However, I rarely enter into relationships.

One of my concerns is that I wouldn't be physically strong or tough enough to defend my lover if it is ever necessary. I'm a beanpole and have never been in a serious, legit fight.

While I do typically command respect from my peers, I've never been challenged to a physical confrontation (knock on wood) and would most likely get my ass kicked by anyone decently tough or strong.

I fear that women, be it consciously or subconsciously, want a man that can protect them physically above all else. Is a skinny, unassuming guy like me dead in the water? How can I give off vibes of being able to defend myself and family without being a cage fighter?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Why do you want a relationship? most guys are totally cool with just having sex with random women..
 

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tsmith2334 said:
Hey, I'm a confident, good looking, and funny guy if I do say myself. Girls seem to like me, I tend to notice a lot of IOIs in most of my interactions. However, I rarely enter into relationships.

One of my concerns is that I wouldn't be physically strong or tough enough to defend my lover if it is ever necessary. I'm a beanpole and have never been in a serious, legit fight.

While I do typically command respect from my peers, I've never been challenged to a physical confrontation (knock on wood) and would most likely get my ass kicked by anyone decently tough or strong.

I fear that women, be it consciously or subconsciously, want a man that can protect them physically above all else. Is a skinny, unassuming guy like me dead in the water? How can I give off vibes of being able to defend myself and family without being a cage fighter?
A#1 Your mentallity is already wrong. All the skinny dudes I know have extended reach and lightning quick hands. The taller the longer. Besides, Earl Boykins (look him up if you don't know him) benches over 300 pounds. Know your strengthes and work to them. Anyone you got reach on, keep out of close quarters, head on a swivel (cliche, I know), and stick em in the eyes and nose to reduce their vision and accuracy as well as effect breathing.

Additionally, take up martial arts as they teach you how to beat any HUMAN's donk based on anatomy, physics, and with little regard to matchups.

All else fails, punch em in the front of the throat (Adam's apple) as hard as you can and beat em to a pulp while they can't breathe. Works for my nephews....lol, real talk.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BOMB FIRST! Sometimes the first punch is the only punch. Who's it gonna be, him or you?

P.S. - The Gangster rapper T.I. gives off a hardened thug image, but is about 5'6 125 lbs. I'm pretty sure you could beat his donk when he's not carrying fully automatic weapons with silencers.
 

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I'm not sure dude,

I say that because once I had a friend with benefits. She decided to stop having sex with me to have sex with a total wuss instead. Seriously, this guy is afraid of everythjing and makes this clear in conversation. He also speaks in a really camp way and has a stupid laugh. He has no muscle and he's not exactly doing very well career-wise.
Yet, she still has sex with him over me now. I can't comprehend it. The only thing I can think of is that he is about a foot taller than me, so maybe, very possibly, girls are totally obsessed with height.
 

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Protection today isn't so much an issue. We have cops and such for that. I'd bet most adults are more concerned with cash flow than personal safety on a day to day basis. Heck, money is safety--better neighborhood, gated community, etc.

Basically, it's 2008, and people have brains.
 

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You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Young Juan said:
A#1 Your mentallity is already wrong. All the skinny dudes I know have extended reach and lightning quick hands. The taller the longer. Besides, Earl Boykins (look him up if you don't know him) benches over 300 pounds. Know your strengthes and work to them. Anyone you got reach on, keep out of close quarters, head on a swivel (cliche, I know), and stick em in the eyes and nose to reduce their vision and accuracy as well as effect breathing.

Additionally, take up martial arts as they teach you how to beat any HUMAN's donk based on anatomy, physics, and with little regard to matchups.

All else fails, punch em in the front of the throat (Adam's apple) as hard as you can and beat em to a pulp while they can't breathe. Works for my nephews....lol, real talk.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BOMB FIRST! Sometimes the first punch is the only punch. Who's it gonna be, him or you?
You totally missed my point. This isn't about me training to become an MMA fighter or the next Earl Boykins (I'd rather be Nate Robinson anyway ;) ). I know plenty of skinny guys could beat up some fat ass. But alot of smaller guys get picked on and are unable to defend themselves if necessary. This isn't about me as much as it is about them in general.

Sure, I could learn self defense, any one can... that's a given. My ambition to be a black belt in Judo isn't going to do much for me this weekend, if you get where I'm coming from. Let's say hyppthetically I wasn't able to win a fight no matter what I did.

My point is that at the present time I'm unable to physically defend myself or a loved one adaquately. And I have fears that hinders on a woman's confidence in me as a lover and her attraction level.

everywomanshero makes a good point, so thank you.
 

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Well yes and no.

Yes because women do care about your physique (I don't want to start off another looks vs. personality debate). Don't believe me? Put on 30 pounds of muscle and notice how many hotter women you start attracting. We can sit here and theorize all we want but there is a reason why guys with built physiques are getting laid on a consistent basis (with some reasonable game).

And No because women don't expect you to cage fight another dude for her honor. What is this, the 1400s? Naw man...how many times do you see two dudes battle each other mortal kombat style over some hot girl?
 

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I think women want someone that they feel safe with. They like a man to be big and strong to protect them yes. It doesn't mean that you won't be able to attract women if you aren't, its just a bonus if you are.
 

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DrD77 said:
I think women want someone that they feel safe with. They like a man to be big and strong to protect them yes. It doesn't mean that you won't be able to attract women if you aren't, its just a bonus if you are.
^^^^ awesome.

I am an mma fighter and have been involved in a whopping 2 fights on the street. Most people will not try to confront you. And if you are, Kick them in the balls and you WIN. NO RULES in a street fight.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

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Don't believe me? Put on 30 pounds of muscle and notice how many hotter women you start attracting
I second that, what i've seen is so much more attention from hotties.

Also, IT AIN'T THE SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT,
IT'S THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG !
 

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Warrior74 said:
WOODY ALLEN.
SETH GREEN
PRINCE

/endthread.
RICH & FAMOUS
RICH & FAMOUS
RICH & FAMOUS

/endownage.
 

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tsmith2334 said:
Hey, I'm a confident, good looking, and funny guy if I do say myself. Girls seem to like me, I tend to notice a lot of IOIs in most of my interactions. However, I rarely enter into relationships.

One of my concerns is that I wouldn't be physically strong or tough enough to defend my lover if it is ever necessary. I'm a beanpole and have never been in a serious, legit fight.

While I do typically command respect from my peers, I've never been challenged to a physical confrontation (knock on wood) and would most likely get my ass kicked by anyone decently tough or strong.

I fear that women, be it consciously or subconsciously, want a man that can protect them physically above all else. Is a skinny, unassuming guy like me dead in the water? How can I give off vibes of being able to defend myself and family without being a cage fighter?
It's not so much of physical strength that women look for, it's about being decisive, being non-wussy, and showing ability to take care of things, and handle situations in a matured way.

That being said, having physical strength is just a bonus, a big bonus nonetheless, but lack thereof is not a limiting factor.
 

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There is actually a wealth of data on attraction.

In terms of external validity, a test was conducted on persons paired for a dance. The only factor that related to whether or not the dance partner wanted to go out on a follow up date was physical attractivenss. This was true for both men & women. When researchers analyzed online searches, men were much more likely to search by weight and women much more likely to search by financial options (when those options were available). Women who watch a video of men interacting widely agree on which men are most desirable to date, and that information does not correlate strictly to physical appearance. This means that the body language and interaction was judged, not merely the mens' static, physical appearance.


In terms of survey data and interviews, women tend to value more personality characteristics and men tend to value more physical characteristics. Attractive men do date more frequently, but they report being no more happy in their relationships than other men. Additionally, the largest predictor of whether two people will marry is proximity to one another. Live near hotties, and you've already increased your odds :)
 

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The Bat said:
Put on 30 pounds of muscle and notice how many hotter women you start attracting. We can sit here and theorize all we want but there is a reason why guys with built physiques are getting laid on a consistent basis (with some reasonable game).
note the (with some reasonable game)

i know guys who are 6 ft tall and literally spend 3 hrs/day in the gym but can't pull

i also know fat short and ugly dudes who can pull because they subcommunicate cool and fun

game > looks when it comes to getting laid
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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