"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Are white men in trouble in the dating scene or is it just my area?

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I live in the Chicago area and here I've noticed that even more and more white women are with black, Latino and even Asian men rather than white men. Since black women (I find black women attractive btw) will only mainly date Latino and black men, the majority of Latina women also seem to want black or Latino men and many white women don't even seem to want white men anymore, where does that leave white men? The way I see it, it seems that white men are going to be a minority in the next 50-100 years with all the black and Latino women having kids in droves whether they can afford to care for them or not. To any minority posters here, what reasons have you heard as to why women prefer you over white men? I'm just interested to know.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This thread will probably get locked because "race threads" tend to cause flamewars.

BTW I don't think women have any race preference. As long as the guy makes her feel good, thats all that matters. But I do think that most people tend to lean to their own race first.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Isn't this thread already in the Mature Man's forum???
 

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Thats some bull sh*t lol. Most blacks where I'm from are automatically seen as "friends." Its probably just bad luck on your part, eg: the white women you go for are the few women who are interested in non-white guys.

Don't let the media deceive you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well I hardly see any white guys with black girls but most black guys I know, and I know several, only get with white girls. This is an undisputable fact, and it's beyond ridiculous for "minority" men to say they are at a disadvantage due to race.. Now draw your own conclusions.
 

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I honestly think guys who start threads like this have an interracial fetish. I think it's some wimpy white dude who says he likes black chicks, but really wants to see white women with black men.

To be honest, most white women don't date black men. It's certainly more prevelant in some parts of the country, and heavier set white women who live in trailer parks do tend to favor black men. But that's because no white dude would have them.

But who cares? If you like black women, why do you care who white women are dating?
 

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I prefer Latina or white women but it seems that most of the Latina or white women I'm attracted to are with either Latino or black men, at least around where I live. I don't see being a white guy as such an advantage anymore in today's world but maybe that's just me. It seems to be "in" to be a black or Latino guy now.
 

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Dude, you need to come to the South. I'm a minority (look Latino/Middle Eastern) and white women with skin that is only one or two shades lighter than mine act like I'm an alien or like they are 100x better than me. Caucasian guys reign supreme here with their own women by far. Unless a minority guy is an athlete, millionaire, or movie star, majority women here are off-limits to them in practice. I wish there were some Latina women here, but I'm out of luck (I'm not in Texas btw). I'm open to African-American or Asian women, but good ones are far in between.

One day I'll make it and go to Sweden, Norway, or Denmark, but until then I'll just concentrate on school, friends, and the gym.

Man, don't worry; you have it made in the U.S.
 

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ketostix said:
Well I hardly see any white guys with black girls but most black guys I know, and I know several, only get with white girls. This is an undisputable fact, and it's beyond ridiculous for "minority" men to say they are at a disadvantage due to race.. Now draw your own conclusions.
It really depends on region. In urban areas, there's a bigger mix of ethnicities, so there's a level playing field there. The suave white guys get white chicks, as do the suave black guys, hispanic guys, indian guys, etc.

I'm a poor black student going to college in a preppy town full of filthy rich Caucasians, in a school where racial self-segregation is a huge issue. Obviously, for me, both because of race and economic factors, I'm at a huge disadvantage.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Wow
with all the black and Latino women having kids in droves
In droves? The thing with a lot of hispanics is that they're Catholic, and well, you know how that goes.

And white women aren't talking to you because they're talking to black men, they aren't talking to you because they aren't interested. TRUTH

most white women don't date black men
True

heavier set white women who live in trailer parks do tend to favor black men
That's a sterotype i see amongst the lowest classes but it doesn't hold true middle class and up imo.

Think about it

Stereotypical minority man w/ no job or assets = fat girl(any race) that isn't too high on the totem pole. TRUTH
 

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It's all what you perfer!!! What's the big fvcking deal. Go find a b!tch and quit whinning!
 

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@OP

lol kinda the opposite where I live. My white buddy has a thing for black and indian girls, he gets the cream of the crop there! lol They got guys of their own race worshipping their feet where ever they walk, and these girls generally earn atleast the same as this guy too.. They just love him lol
 

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If you are into Black women, as a white man, its a buyers market for you. More and more Black women are giving up on us Black men, due to many things, not to exclude the stereotypes of us not being good providers, socioeconomic reasons, the fact that 1 out of 4 Black men in America are in prison, ect.

True, a good percentage of white women are giving up on dating white guys, well the same with our women.
 

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I think you just have to look around and find a club where girls are on the vibe you want, eg if you want a white girl dont go to an R+B room, im in liverpool at the moment id say the nightlife is really raceist i have a black friend and we cant really go out withought 1 of us getting raceism eg ill get it in an R+B and he'l get it in a dance place, i think if you broaden your view youl realise most people end up with theyre own race but in a day and age with contraceptives both the men and women will want to see what its like with other races also, I dont believe that any race is at a disadvantage in the grand scheme of things theres defenately girls that exclusivly look for an opposite race but as has been stated before theyre normally not wanted so much by men of theyre own race anyway
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Blackmm said:
If you are into Black women, as a white man, its a buyers market for you. More and more Black women are giving up on us Black men, due to many things, not to exclude the stereotypes of us not being good providers, socioeconomic reasons, the fact that 1 out of 4 Black men in America are in prison, ect....
Yes but at a cost. The women women that do seem to distance themselves from their culture by necessity. The women of color (Black, Latina, Indian, etc.) that I know who have dated outside their race say that they were ostracized by women of their own culture for "giving up." Some have actually moved out of their neighborhoods in order to get away from the constant bombardment that they would receive whether or not their boyfriend were around.
 

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Good God, not one of these toxic threads again. You Americans do really need to get past your race issues one day, it's really, really boring.
 

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Blackmm said:
True, a good percentage of white women are giving up on dating white guys,

What?

Since when?

A good percentage?!

I'd say more white women will date outside their race than before but i doubt very many have just given up on white guys.
 

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if white guys are in trouble, then us Asian guys are really in trouble

it's all in your head dude
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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