Are these Selena fans like closet lessies?

[corrector]

This is Selena's concert back in 2015. The music video she made with the music seemed like some sort of soft core porn.

You would have expected it to have been more guys that would have been into a song like that with an actual live concert, but was surprized that it's mainly hot young women attending there and cheering her on like that. How can these many women be excited over a song like that?

 

[HaleyBaron]

There has been very little or no incidence of boys or men going to a female concert. It is usually mostly women and the men they pull along for a date. Meanwhile, boys and men tend to go to male concerts typically. Think about it, why would men want to go watch a female sing unless he was pulled along by his female acquaintances or gay? Even then, gay men would rather go see a man at a concert.

 

[corrector]

There has been very little or no incidence of boys or men going to a female concert. It is usually mostly women and the men they pull along for a date. Meanwhile, boys and men tend to go to male concerts typically. Think about it, why would men want to go watch a female sing unless he was pulled along by his female acquaintances or gay? Even then, gay men would rather go see a man at a concert.

I see what you are saying. Probably more guys will be viewing the "softcore porn" music video she made rather than be interested in attending her concerts. At least we know it's not gay to look at that because at least is like softcore porn within a singing lady instead of a fapping one. Much like the ASMR videos. What is nice on a music video may not be the same way in a concert. Very often when I look at a music video I love, and then see the same thing in taped concert, it's comes across as very blah compared to the video.

 

[zekko]

Is there still a closet?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I see what you are saying. Probably more guys will be viewing the "softcore porn" music video she made rather than be interested in attending her concerts. At least we know it's not gay to look at that because at least is like softcore porn within a singing lady instead of a fapping one. Much like the ASMR videos. What is nice on a music video may not be the same way in a concert. Very often when I look at a music video I love, and then see the same thing in taped concert, it's comes across as very blah compared to the video.

Is it gay to use a gay man as your avatar?

 

[corrector]

Is it gay to use a gay man as your avatar?

Oh, I didn't know that. That avatar was changed prior to 2020 when there were racially heated arguements on this section. I got fed up with some of the arguments and made sure I put a Black actor as an avatar. Now that the rules are better enforced by admin, and I'm not seeing the same heated racial arguments on here like before. Therefore, I'll just follow the trend that others are doing and just leave as one letter.

 

[Scaramouche]

Is it gay to use a gay man as your avatar?

Hi Pierce,
Kiss me and find out.

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

Is it gay to use a gay man as your avatar?

Potentially, but only if you like the Layer Cake on your face

Great movie

 

[BaronOfHair]

This is Selena's concert back in 2015. The music video she made with the music seemed like some sort of soft core porn.

You would have expected it to have been more guys that would have been into a song like that with an actual live concert, but was surprized that it's mainly hot young women attending there and cheering her on like that. How can these many women be excited over a song like that?

Only girls in middle school could mistake that insipid crud for "music". THAT'S why we don't find many males of any age at concerts like that

 

[BaronOfHair]

This is Selena's concert back in 2015. The music video she made with the music seemed like some sort of soft core porn.

How can these many women be excited over a song like that?

That song was recorded in '15. Today, the line "Let me show me how proud I am to be yours" would trigger many folks into a meltdown, the rationale being: "Selena Gomez is promoting Patriarchal Oppression, by openly reveling in the fact that she belongs to a man like property"

 

[corrector]

That song was recorded in '15. Today, the line "Let me show me how proud I am to be yours" would trigger many folks into a meltdown, the rationale being: "Selena Gomez is promoting Patriarchal Oppression, by openly reveling in the fact that she belongs to a man like property"

She's YOURs when it's YOUR turn. Lets not kid ourselves.

 

[BaronOfHair]

She's YOURs when it's YOUR turn. Lets not kid ourselves.

Back to my point...

When Good For You was released in '15, Gomez and her co-writers conceptualized the song as follows: "Its come-hither lyrics have intensity, psychodrama, self-confidence, and female empowerment as main themes, dealing with pleasing her lover and being the perfect complement for him" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_for_You_(Selena_Gomez_song) None of which prevented the song from gaining popularity or topping the charts

Today, by contrast, a substantial portion of America is guaranteed to have an instantaneous meltdown, at the mere suggestion that a woman pleasing her lover/being the perfect complement for him = "Female empowerment". We wouldn't see an up-and-coming pop singer crooning out a tune like that, amid a sea of enthusiastic tweens, on live TV in the middle of Time Square

Our cultural climate between then and today has changed drastically, so much so that the early-mid 10s and '16-today might as well be different two different planets

 

[BaronOfHair]

Just another submissive woman wanting to look good for her man

Yep; That song was also released the year 50 Shades The Movie broke the bank at the box office

 

[BaronOfHair]

I don't know much about her (my taste in music runs the other way), but isn't she one of those Disney clones like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera?

Pretty much what her Wiki bio says

 

[BaronOfHair]

Just another submissive woman wanting to look good for her man. I fail to see how her fans are lesbians...

To be fair, even back in '15, there were folks decrying the song as "problematic" and "insufficiently feminist" https://compassionthemovement.wordp...irst issue is that,crutch for your self worth

Selena Gomez – “Good for You” Rant

Part of me can’t even believe that I’m wasting my time writing a blog about Selena Gomez. But every time I hear her track “Good for You,” I feel a certain level of disgust.…

peppermintfrostblog.wordpress.com

Difference between then and today: Almost EVERY mainstream publication reads like those two articles

 

[BaronOfHair]

Is it bad that IDGAF? I rarely read mainstream publications and I don't care about these manufactured celebrities.

Any environment where the press is intimidated into carrying a party line isn't healthy. Here in The US, we went through a more mild version of this in The 2000s... From late '01-'09, it was impossible to say anything critical about The War On Terror, without being labelled a Fifth Column Jihadi. Thus, The MSM pretty much served as unofficial spokespeople for The Pentagon

 

[BaronOfHair]

Yes, I know about that, I have American friends and we talked pretty much daily about 9/11 and the aftermath.

Reminds me of the following https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/350/can-the-left-get-it-right

Quote -


"Polonsky: I thought the antiwar movement expressed its position with intelligence.

Shellenberger: What I fault the antiwar movement for is that it was never very clear about what it stood for, neither its core values nor its vision for U.S. engagement in the world. The message coming out of the mainstream antiwar groups before the invasion of Iraq was “Let the inspections work.” What kind of vision and values did that elevate?"

And:

"Polonsky: The all-or-nothing debate reminds me of my activist days in the eighties. There was a certain counter-cultural identity within the peace movement. You had a sense of being more bohemian and hip than the mainstream. That identity was pleasant for us, but I don’t think it served our overall objectives"

The Manosphere is similar to "Progressives" of The 2000s in more ways than most realize... Just as the latter deserves credit for not blindly going along with the invasion of Iraq/The War On Terror more generally(At a time when, as Noam Chomsky has noted, The US MSM was Pravda-esque in it's genuflection towards The Bush Regime), the former deserves credit for challenging the "Men Evil, Women Helpless Prey" mantra that was regurgitated without question in most of the mainstream press. Ultimately though, neither was especially effective, in terms of securing concrete and tangible gains

Bush II won a second term, and didn't really experience a faltering in his popularity, until the very end of his Presidency. Everyday Americans just got bored with Iraq, thus support for a War On Terror began to evaporate... Activists and intellectuals had very little influence over any of this. Donald Trump didn't turn out to be The Mahdi so much of The Manosphere anticipated, and MeToo no longer being at the forefront of our cultural Zeitgeist is largely attributable the public's attention moving on to other fixations, rather than a large cross-section of America being persuaded that stereotypes about men are gross oversimplifications. The Manosphere never became anything more than a subculture

 

[BaronOfHair]

There has been very little or no incidence of boys or men going to a female concert. It is usually mostly women and the men they pull along for a date. Meanwhile, boys and men tend to go to male concerts typically. Think about it, why would men want to go watch a female sing unless he was pulled along by his female acquaintances or gay? Even then, gay men would rather go see a man at a concert.

Heterosexual men ARE enjoying the dance numbers set to this particular song

 

[BaronOfHair]

Is it bad that IDGAF?

Also, the censorious, stifling social climate we've been in the midst of from '16-today has given us a world where what's described between 0:00-3:25

Is now the norm. When damn near everyone's been cowed into never saying anything "Problematic" or (On the other end of the sociocultural continuum) "Blue Pill"*, we end with an environment where most artists are confined to rehashing material produced prior to the late 10s


*When the typical Manospherean encounters lyrics from Ms. Gomez such as " I'm 14 carat.. Doing it up like Midas... Now you say I got a touch... So good, so good... Make you never wanna leave", he interprets that "As promoting The Feminine Primary Social Order", not as "A submissive woman boasting of how well she satisfies her lover"

 

[HaleyBaron]

Heterosexual men ARE enjoying the dance numbers set to this particular song

Those men aren't heterosexual.