Are the majority of advice givers here bitter and jaded?

[DonGorgon]

Nobody's crying. Was just asking.

sounded like tears but theres is your answer...lol:yes:

 

[Don-Kong]

Follow and learn to trust the DJ's with a good attitude. Attitude is everything in pickup.

Criteria and questions to consider for trusting a real DJ:
Who is posting honest reflections of their failures and successes?
Who sounds reasonable, balanced and coherent?
Who is actually putting this into practice and do we know?

Criteria and questions to consider for those who appear less positive and keyboard jockeying:
Have I seen this guys field reports? Is he working at it?
Has he actually got a point?
What can I learn from his apparent criticism and unhelpful attitude?
How old is this dude?

Etc etc

 

[:-)]

sounded like tears but theres is your answer...lol:yes:

ok. thanks.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

the implication here, Indian Race Troll, is that its impossible to prove yourself from unattractive to attractive to women. People here are in all stages of that personal growth.

1. I am not indian dip****
2. It is impossible to prove yourself from unattractive to attractive to certain women but with enough self-improvement you will find women who are receptive

so yes if you are trying to win the heart of that one girl or one group of girls that hate you, good luck. if not then you can improve yourself but what does some piece of **** AFC like you know.

 

[handle]

When it comes to this site I would stick to the basic advice. Ignore lists of IOIs though. And be aware that a lot of the "phone game" stuff may not be relevant anymore. Anything written by Pook is pretty good. In my opinion the Antidump material is the greatest part of the DJ Bible, but it has a very particular target audience.

As for the posters on the forums -- take them with a grain of salt. A mountain of salt. Quite honestly I would stick to the articles in the bible and leave the forums alone. There's some good advice now and then but you'll find that most of your problems are more eloquently addressed somewhere in the bible.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

You ADMITTED to me you were the Indian Race troll in a PM

pls forward PM to me right now, I want to see when this happened lol

 

[Echoes]

When it comes to this site I would stick to the basic advice. Ignore lists of IOIs though. And be aware that a lot of the "phone game" stuff may not be relevant anymore. Anything written by Pook is pretty good. In my opinion the Antidump material is the greatest part of the DJ Bible, but it has a very particular target audience.

As for the posters on the forums -- take them with a grain of salt. A mountain of salt. Quite honestly I would stick to the articles in the bible and leave the forums alone. There's some good advice now and then but you'll find that most of your problems are more eloquently addressed somewhere in the bible.

This is some of the best advice you will find on the forums.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Lets be objective here. The manosphere is mostly males who wish they had success with women, do not have success with women, can't deal with the reality and as a result make up stories on the web about how they slept with models when anyone with some common sense can tell you they are full of ****. It is mostly a cult like following where sociopaths with ego problems cannot face the reality, they just aren't desirable to women.

Howard, that is far from objective retort.

Allow me if you will to now shed genuine objectivity on to the situation.

I can't speak for 'most of the Manosphere' mainly because I've never met anyone from the Manosphere. Instead I'll provide myself as a living breathing case study (a well known method of scientific review). This will conveniently double-up as an appraisal of circumstance:

-I have success with women. I have had two successful LTRs and one terrible one.
-I have had sex with approximately 60 women by the age of 30, give or take.
-I actually have dated a model. And I would not recommend her to anyone else. Histrionic Personality Disorder to the max.

-A definition of a sociopath is: a person with a psychopathic personality whose behaviour is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

Now I may be way of track (though actually I know I'm not), but a man who is seeking advice or wanting to air grievances about an interpersonal relationship does not strike me as someone who 'lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience', or indeed he who is necessarily displaying a 'psychopathic personality whose behaviour is antisocial, or criminal'.

By his very nature he is surely seeking assistance to become more sociable and successful with women (and men) in general.

Yes there are the odd one or two who are on the spectrum, but there are those personalities in EVERY walk of life. To assume otherwise is a poor application of logic.

Now Howie, that's how one objectifies a situation. It's all about ordinal measurement, you see.

Take care now.