Do you think that there are some guys who are just meant to be AFC's? I've seen a few with the knowledge about the Ladder Theory, Speed Seduction and the like and yet they choose to not improve themselves. Are they weak willed, in denial? Afraid of change? It would be a sad world indeed if some poor saps were meant to be IW's/ AFC's for life. What are your thoughts on this?
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Are some doomed to be AFC's?
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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no I dont think that some are "destined" to stay AFC, its just harder for some guys. its all kinds of pieces to the DJ puzzle, how much of an afc you used to be, growing up without a father, your feelings towards women etc etc....
Player_Supreme
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You must be talking about MO.Bombs and Habeeb and sniffer and all the others who lurk on this board posting stupidity.
Yeah some people are doomed by their own inablilty to take action.
Men take action...females are passive and wait.
Maybe we should kick the non-men off this board.
“knowledge is not enough, we must apply, Willing is not enough we must do”
Bruce Lee
Yeah some people are doomed by their own inablilty to take action.
Men take action...females are passive and wait.
Maybe we should kick the non-men off this board.
“knowledge is not enough, we must apply, Willing is not enough we must do”
Bruce Lee
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What's the definition of "AFC" that you're using here? Someone who doesn't use Speed Seduction techniques?
No to me an AFC is any guy who whines about not being able to get a girl, and yet supplicates to a woman or does IW-actions all the damn time. (IW= Intellectual *****) To me, the worst kind of chump you could be is someone who has been shown what he is doing wrong, makes no attempt to improve himself and still whines about not getting girls.
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Tryin to Grow a Chin
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There is no one who is so AFC that it can't be turned around.
Chin Man is a prime example.
Chin Man is a prime example.
Mr. Delicious
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haha all this AFC talk reminds me of the Matrix. Everyone is an AFC until they "wake up" and are brought into the real world. Some refuse to give up their AFC ways and swear by them no matter how foolish it sounds.
I actually know a guy like this. He is still obsessed with his girlfriend after she dumped him three years ago and cheated on him during the relationship. I even showed him this site and some things he could do and rejected it saying this is a bunch of nerds that dont know anything about women. He even critizes me for following advice from a site.
I actually know a guy like this. He is still obsessed with his girlfriend after she dumped him three years ago and cheated on him during the relationship. I even showed him this site and some things he could do and rejected it saying this is a bunch of nerds that dont know anything about women. He even critizes me for following advice from a site.
elvis aint dead yet
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Who knows.. The problem with this site is, well, most people on here are AFCs or once were. Some lie about what they get to feel better about themselves. Put it this way, if some of these guys were hooking up as much as they say, they wouldn't have time to be posting to an internet site. Thats reality. While research and learn from this site, also take much of it with a grain of salt. NOt everything you read is true.
As for destined to be AFC, who knows. Maybe some people can never become a total DJ, no matter what they do.
Just put it this way, adults and teachers lie to kids all the time about , HEY YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH AND BE ANYTHING YOU WANT.. SET YOUR GOALS HIGH AND YOU WILL ACHIEVE ANYTHING.
Well thats like the guys who say, just go out and do it and you'll get results. it's not always that simple.
A friend of mine growing up, his goal was to join the air force and become a pilot. That was his entire goal. He studied math, science, even joined some explorers program or something. I dont remember the name, but it was for young kids to get a taste of the air force or something.
Was a smart kid, cool kid. Well he took SAT classes and all that mumbo jumbo. Parents and teachers told him to just study hard, stay in shape and blah blah. He got scholarships and all. He got a signed letter from some congressmen for the Air Force academy.
he was on his way to becoming a pilot. So he went down to to pass some medical exams, and low and behold, to be a pilot, he needed near perfect vision.
He didnt wear glasses, didnt know he needed them, but his vision wasn't near perfect, so he flunked.
Maybe it's different now, but his entire goal was to become a pilot. I haven't seen the kid I'd say in 8 years. Saw him a few years after high school, and he dropped out of community college and yada yada.
So when i see other people tell somebody , YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, you just might have to work a little harder, i remember the day he came back from that exam. I had to talk the kid out of suicide. And for a 17 year old, thats not something you want to do.
And they didnt have laser surgery back then, so it was a moot point.
whats this got to do with the question about AFCs. Sometimes, some people have to realize that not everything is obtainable. Not all our goals can be accomplished. And many times it has nothing to do with talent, hardwork, or luck, it has to do with stuff you have no control over.
Talking to girls, yeah you have control over that. But getting a girl to become attracted to some guy who looks like some of those guys from the show AVERAGE JOE, well, maybe they should change their goals.
Ever talk a good friend out of suicide, it's not an easy thing to do. So maybe some people will never date Carmen Electra, never have the chance to, but maybe they can date sandra bullock or carrie ann moss or somebody like that.
Too much of this site is just like adults and teachers. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... When, yeah maybe it's negative, but it's not reality.
Whats the statistic, yes more girls attempt "suicide" for attention, but since 2000, there are 80 percent more boys then girls between the ages of 10-24 who have taken their own lives.
Maybe the little problems guys have getting a girl is really a major issue that people dont want to talk about.
As for destined to be AFC, who knows. Maybe some people can never become a total DJ, no matter what they do.
Just put it this way, adults and teachers lie to kids all the time about , HEY YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH AND BE ANYTHING YOU WANT.. SET YOUR GOALS HIGH AND YOU WILL ACHIEVE ANYTHING.
Well thats like the guys who say, just go out and do it and you'll get results. it's not always that simple.
A friend of mine growing up, his goal was to join the air force and become a pilot. That was his entire goal. He studied math, science, even joined some explorers program or something. I dont remember the name, but it was for young kids to get a taste of the air force or something.
Was a smart kid, cool kid. Well he took SAT classes and all that mumbo jumbo. Parents and teachers told him to just study hard, stay in shape and blah blah. He got scholarships and all. He got a signed letter from some congressmen for the Air Force academy.
he was on his way to becoming a pilot. So he went down to to pass some medical exams, and low and behold, to be a pilot, he needed near perfect vision.
He didnt wear glasses, didnt know he needed them, but his vision wasn't near perfect, so he flunked.
Maybe it's different now, but his entire goal was to become a pilot. I haven't seen the kid I'd say in 8 years. Saw him a few years after high school, and he dropped out of community college and yada yada.
So when i see other people tell somebody , YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT, you just might have to work a little harder, i remember the day he came back from that exam. I had to talk the kid out of suicide. And for a 17 year old, thats not something you want to do.
And they didnt have laser surgery back then, so it was a moot point.
whats this got to do with the question about AFCs. Sometimes, some people have to realize that not everything is obtainable. Not all our goals can be accomplished. And many times it has nothing to do with talent, hardwork, or luck, it has to do with stuff you have no control over.
Talking to girls, yeah you have control over that. But getting a girl to become attracted to some guy who looks like some of those guys from the show AVERAGE JOE, well, maybe they should change their goals.
Ever talk a good friend out of suicide, it's not an easy thing to do. So maybe some people will never date Carmen Electra, never have the chance to, but maybe they can date sandra bullock or carrie ann moss or somebody like that.
Too much of this site is just like adults and teachers. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... When, yeah maybe it's negative, but it's not reality.
Whats the statistic, yes more girls attempt "suicide" for attention, but since 2000, there are 80 percent more boys then girls between the ages of 10-24 who have taken their own lives.
Maybe the little problems guys have getting a girl is really a major issue that people dont want to talk about.
digitalrat
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I think some people have a harder time with certain parts of being a DJ.
One person might have trouble with being funny, because he has never been around funny people. Their dad might of been the strict military type with no sense of humor.
Another person might have trouble with kino. He was in a family situation where touching wasnt commonplace.
Or, They could be like me. I lost my brother and father years ago. I have this thing for getting oneitises. I got over my last one and a new one is creeping up. It's hard and I have to deal with it. I have this feeling of wanting to be loved because I've had a hard childhood and not the best family situation. It's a pain in the ass. I hate having feelings for some one that doesn't deserve it or hasn't earned it yet.
It's life and I'll have to find some way to get over it. Soon hopefully.
One person might have trouble with being funny, because he has never been around funny people. Their dad might of been the strict military type with no sense of humor.
Another person might have trouble with kino. He was in a family situation where touching wasnt commonplace.
Or, They could be like me. I lost my brother and father years ago. I have this thing for getting oneitises. I got over my last one and a new one is creeping up. It's hard and I have to deal with it. I have this feeling of wanting to be loved because I've had a hard childhood and not the best family situation. It's a pain in the ass. I hate having feelings for some one that doesn't deserve it or hasn't earned it yet.
It's life and I'll have to find some way to get over it. Soon hopefully.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
elvis aint dead yet
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Good luck and I hope you can overcome your past.
As anything, some people have harder times then others.
WHat i'm trying to say is, some people, because of lack of looks, lack of certain things, will never obtain the elite DJ status that they wish and desire for. ANd so many people come on to this site and say, go out and do it, improve your game, and thats kind of bs to me.
Improve your charm, improve your physical health, improve stuff about yourself, but sometimes, no matter how much you improve, girls like CARMEN ELECTRA will not like you. End of story.
When your in the real world and not in high school and/or college, you dont get a chance for girls to get to know you. Deal with it. The saying is, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
And all this BS about talking to some chic at a club. I'm sorry, but where i grew up, the clubs with all the hot chics, you couldnt hear yourself think, yet alone somebody else talk. So getting to know one another by speaking is kind of full of BS. DOn't know what kind of bs clubs most people on this site go to.
As anything, some people have harder times then others.
WHat i'm trying to say is, some people, because of lack of looks, lack of certain things, will never obtain the elite DJ status that they wish and desire for. ANd so many people come on to this site and say, go out and do it, improve your game, and thats kind of bs to me.
Improve your charm, improve your physical health, improve stuff about yourself, but sometimes, no matter how much you improve, girls like CARMEN ELECTRA will not like you. End of story.
When your in the real world and not in high school and/or college, you dont get a chance for girls to get to know you. Deal with it. The saying is, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
And all this BS about talking to some chic at a club. I'm sorry, but where i grew up, the clubs with all the hot chics, you couldnt hear yourself think, yet alone somebody else talk. So getting to know one another by speaking is kind of full of BS. DOn't know what kind of bs clubs most people on this site go to.