Are short men doomed?

[Clench2465]

Since a good portion of a man's game is based on his physical attributes, and by that I mean mostly your height (yea I really don't buy the whole it's ALL about being ****y and funny bit because I live this reality). The very first thing you hear majority of girls9 say about the qualities they find attractive in a guy is tallness (even worse when they base it on how high their heels are). Study shows that people make conclusions about eachother in the first five seconds of an encounter. I bet it's even faster for females when they're trying to decide whether they're going to go out with you or not.

I'm 27 and 5'6 (with no shoes) and even though I've had few relationships in the past (it's starting to seem like a distant past), it's still an uphill battle trying to pick up a chick. I gave up the club scene too early for this very reason. I mean...besides the several failed attempt to try and scream "my game" over the the ridiculously loud club music, the thought of her already made up mind about me based on my vertical stance before I even open my mouth is discouraging (unless she's really drunk). I've had one that didn't hide it and neither was she polite about it. She flat out told me I'm a midget and that I'm too short. What I'd give for couple more inches.

Despite my funny (and sometimes ****y) as well as my laidback attitude, I still constantly run into this "wall." Any advise? I welcome all advise from everyone but it would be great to get an advise from true Don Juan in my height range (if there is one)...because I feel someone without that "problem" wouldn't really know what it's like. Thanks.

 

[Couto]

I'm in the same boat as you and honestly it used to piss me off but height is one of many parts of physical attraction. Physically women like height, dressing good, how muscular you are, face, etc. Which means height is one of many components but not the end all be in a purely physical sense.

I'm 5'7 and I've found out after putting on only one year worth of muscle, dressing good, getting a stylish haircut and generally walking around with a confident attitude, I find I get *MUCH* more looks from girls shorter, my height or taller then me before despite being the same height. Granted some girls won't even consider you if your not 6 foot but that's the same as you not even considering a girl because she has no ass or a race your not attracted to or whatever.

P.S if any girls ever says something like "oh your so short" or "your too short for me"
smile and say "we're the same height lying down"

It's much more about how you feel about your height then anyone else does. Once you overcome that they pick up on it and you get the green light.

Granted these girls are young the guy in this video is 5'6 and kinda seems beta but look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk4yg8e9o0g

 

[HoneyHitter]

There are also advantages to being the same or almost the same height as the girl. Work them!

 

[IBreatheSpears]

If I say "Yes, you're doomed", are you going to give up on women? No? Then why are you worrying about it? Stop battering your own self-esteem with these doubts.

[edit] If you would have answered "yes" to the above question, then this is you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_man

 

[Clench2465]

If I say "Yes, you're doomed", are you going to give up on women? No? Then why are you worrying about it? Stop battering your own self-esteem with these doubts.

You're right

Thanks Couto

 

[The LadyKiller]

The answer is likely "no," but I get frustrated at times as well.

Though I'm muscular and athletic, I'm the shortest out of my group of friends at 5'7." A girl I went out with a few months ago eventually grew distant because of my height (she let it slip a couple weeks ago - and she's only 5'2"!).

I see other guys around my height in long-term relationships, so nobody is doomed. But being short doesn't give us any advantages either.

 

[Skyline]

I'm around the 5'6 range and I've approaches a few tall girls, especially this 20 year old who was like a 6ft tall HB:8 at a bar. I wouldn't say were doomed but we are at a slight disadvantage compared to taller guys. Im also the shortest of the group but once my group communicates with a girl I'm usually the one still keeping her talking though.

Another thing. I was at the mall the other day and I saw this really tall and a little curvy woman in a ****tail dress, heels, and makeup. She was like 6ft in those heels and probably 5'10 without. And she was walking with a kid! Her husband, I'm assuming, was about my height walking with her as well. I mean he had to look up to her, literally. He had a confident walk, the type you see preached around here. This lady had to be in her 40's and she's wearing all this stuff to make her look sexy even after having a kid, I just thought to myself: "wow that guy knows what he wants in life and she knows it. Thats a lucky woman."

I feel like height only matters once you open your mouth and depending how you walk with it. Plus we can get away with fvcking younger girls more and shorter ones!

 

[ImprovingJuan]

i've never had problems with height before, i'm 5'9. i think if you dress good, smell good, work out and have good convo skills, that's something i wouldnt worry about.

 

[G_Govan]

You're only doomed if you believe you are. Don't expect to convince any one to give you a shot despite your height. You have to approach all interactions assuming the sale (if you're cold approaching).

I'm short as well, although my face gives me a few points. However, there are still going to be women that won't give me the time of day and I accept that.

The one thing you don't ever want to do is express even the slighest insecurity about your height. When people mention my height I usually laugh or make a joke, warning them not to force me into my napoloen complex where I turn into a short version of the hulk.

As far as you're concerned you didn't even know you were short. This is the mindset you need.

 

[62Telecaster]

Nah...I'm 5'6" and haven't really had any issues. I've dated girls who were taller than me, it really is more about you and how you feel about yourself. But having said that, I prefer short girls anyway despite the fact that I always tend to develop longevity with women who are either my height or slightly taller. It's weird...but that's what happens. Just don't let it bother you because it really shouldn't.

 

[Bingo-Player]

My housemate is something like 6 “2” I’m 5’ 11” makes me look like a midget standing next to him and yet i still do substantially better than him when we are out in the field together

Secondly he tends to only attract one type of girl and that’s insecure emotionally ruined chicks who don’t know what the hell they want out of life bar a “tall guy” to “protect” them

Thirdly when asked what do women find attractive i will guarantee you 99% of them will just barrel off the standard answers of “tall , dark and handsome” without even thinking about whether they like it or not because that is what society teaches them

Its like a man saying he likes “big boobs and a nice ass” ....i can assure you i look for a lot more than that in a woman and so will they

You need to have some sort of sparkle in you but being tall isn’t absolutley the be all and end all of attraction

Chill

 

[goldengoose]

Randy Newman wrote a song called "Short People"

I have a friend who is 5' 6" right on the nose and gets over looked by a lot of women wanting a tall guy. Even chicks who are 5' 2" are looking to bag a dude over 6 feet. Some short chick came out and told him I don't want to date a guy who is as tall as my little brother. Even the fatties say they deserve a tall, dark, and handsome man. You just gotta laugh at that sh1t.

 

[TheGambino]

short and fat = doomed

 

[nmartinez12443]

You can add 3 inches by....

Okay I am 5-11 without shoes. I bought some liftkits from liftkits.com which are insoles that can add up to 3 inches of height. You can also get similar products from amazon.com

They bring me up to 6-2 and a half with shoes. About a 4 inch difference.

Tips

-Obviously wear jeans.

- I wear jordans with these insoles that cover the ankle and lace them up for ankle support.

-Wear long socks because your ankle will "slightly hang out" if your going the 3 inch insole.

I take girls home and when I take off my shoes they don't notice and don't say anything. I am not saying keep the shoes out where they can see them, but really it is about a confidence thing.

 

[VikingKing]

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[JohnnyStorm]

Okay I am 5-11 without shoes. I bought some liftkits from liftkits.com which are insoles that can add up to 3 inches of height. You can also get similar products from amazon.com

They bring me up to 6-2 and a half with shoes. About a 4 inch difference.

Tips

-Obviously wear jeans.

- I wear jordans with these insoles that cover the ankle and lace them up for ankle support.

-Wear long socks because your ankle will "slightly hang out" if your going the 3 inch insole.

I take girls home and when I take off my shoes they don't notice and don't say anything. I am not saying keep the shoes out where they can see them, but really it is about a confidence thing.

These are kind of interesting. What's it like walking in them? Do they affect your balance? Are they comfortable?

I'm 5'9'' and tbh, have never really cared about my height. The word "short" in this thread could easily have been replaced with "bald", "fat", "old", "poor" and we'd have had many offshoots of the same thing.

If your height is an issue for you, then other people will pick up on it too.
If it's not then only sad, superficial people will reject you for it.

 

[Mike32ct]

As long as you have your hair, it's not too bad*.

A shorter guy with hair will beat a taller balding guy at least six days out of the week.

*Spike that shyte up tall or at least have a longer/ thicker hair cut for the illusion of more height.

 

[Stagger Lee]

As long as you have your hair, it's not too bad*.

A shorter guy with hair will beat a taller balding guy at least six days out of the week.

*Spike that shyte up tall or at least have a longer/ thicker hair cut for the illusion of more height.

I completely agree. Even if you're over 6' tall, noticably thinning or balding hair is as detrimental as is being under 5'7 is. And if you are over 5'7, you're not even really short and it's not much of a factor. The average male height is only 5'9 and average female height is 5'4. About the only thing that will overcome having thinning/balding hair or being under 5'7 is having an above average attractive face.

Being taller than 5'9 is a small advantage if you have good hair. But if you have thinning hair (or an unattractive face) even being 6'1+ doesn't count for anything. Thinning hair is at least the equivalent of being under 5'7.

 

[jurry]

Only in the world of betas filled with doubt/insecurity does height and hair matter. If you have the balls and the eyes and the game, doesnt make a damn difference. Look at tyler from RSD, ugly as fvck and pulls dimes every night of the week, because hes practically fearless. Theres also a good video that julien does about acting like the "fat bald ceo" take a look for it.

 

[IBreatheSpears]

Even if you're over 6' tall, noticably thinning or balding hair is as detrimental as is being under 5'7 is.

But on a taller man, fewer people will be able to see your bald spot.