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I have a couple pair of pleated pants that still look new and wonder are these outdated?
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Are Pleated pants out of fashion?
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dress pants?
Julius_Seizeher
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It depends on what you wear them with, they're either cool or they can make you look old.
backbreaker
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wearing pleated pants is the equivelant to wearing a clip on tie.
please discard.
please discard.
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There kakas<spelling just something casual to replace jeans.
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Ya, flat front is the way to go when it comes to suit and dress pant selection.
Some single pleat suits can still be pretty slick if the cut is nice, but very very rarely. And if it's double or triple pleats, should probably toss them out since you may look like someone's grandfather in them heh.
And if it's khakis, then flat front all the way.
Some single pleat suits can still be pretty slick if the cut is nice, but very very rarely. And if it's double or triple pleats, should probably toss them out since you may look like someone's grandfather in them heh.
And if it's khakis, then flat front all the way.
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Senior Don Juan
We definitely need a fashion forum here to at least get the basics down.
I know since I have started wearing better shirts and pants and new shoes I am getting more attention from the ladies and respect as well. Today I was complimented on my new shirt it wasn't sexual but she said she really liked my shirt so something is definitely working so I am trying to get the pants down but looks like I will buy a couple more pair.
I know since I have started wearing better shirts and pants and new shoes I am getting more attention from the ladies and respect as well. Today I was complimented on my new shirt it wasn't sexual but she said she really liked my shirt so something is definitely working so I am trying to get the pants down but looks like I will buy a couple more pair.
backbreaker
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I buy my son pleated pants so on the few occussions he has to dress up the bottom of his pants dont' look like a war zone.
grown men should not have to wear pleated pants. not making fun of anything.. alot of guys just dnot' pay attention to fashion. My dad was big into dressing and therefore I was fortunate enough to pick up some fashion sense from my dad.
yes we do need some type of fashion forum.
at least your asking questions. that's good.
Go get you 2 good pair of ralph lauren pants, 1 tan and 1 navy blue.
grown men should not have to wear pleated pants. not making fun of anything.. alot of guys just dnot' pay attention to fashion. My dad was big into dressing and therefore I was fortunate enough to pick up some fashion sense from my dad.
yes we do need some type of fashion forum.
at least your asking questions. that's good.
Go get you 2 good pair of ralph lauren pants, 1 tan and 1 navy blue.