Are one night stands wrong, unethical, and immoral?

[thechosenone2190]

If you sleep with a girl who wants a long term relationship with you, won't you hurt her feelings after she learns you just used her for sex? Isn't this wrong? If you put yourself in her shoes, wouldn't you prefer men not to use you for just sex?

As emotional creatures, females value a man's committed long-term investment in them more than sex. I'm not referring to girls who also look for one night stands, but girls looking for long term partners. That's how most females are wired to select mates. Of course, I'm not saying girls go after nice guys. Ideally, they want high quality alpha males to take care of them in the long run and not just to have sex with.

Therefore, to overcome this moral dillema, should I only game girls good enough to be my long term partner? Should I only try gaming high quality girls? The thing is there aren't many high quality girls out there. They're so rare. Should I lower my standards? Will my attraction to a girl change if I sleep with her, so therefore I should lower my standards? My standards are girls who are as good looking as me with a good personality; girls a little less attractive than me are also fine. I would rate myself 7 or 8 in looks. Does sex come first before a serious relationship?

 

[AtillaTheHun]

No. Stop trying to please everyone.

 

[lifeislearning]

What is moral (in any context, women related or not) can be determined only by you. Asking us what your morals are is a huge AFC move designed solely to validate the moral conflict you are obviously faced with.

If you really want to be DJ you must be true and honest with yourself, completely examine all desires, motivations, and feelings on the issue and use these to formulate your own code of ethics. That is the easy part. The hard part on the road to DJ is absolutely following that code NO MATTER WHAT!

If you decide, after much deliberation, one night stands are wrong then you must be a man and live up to that. "Well, she's really hot," or "It's ok 'cause I'm drunk now" are typical AFC excuses that will severely impede your goal of DJ attainment.

I, for example, choose not to have sex with any woman until she has proven she is worthy of my intimacy. This is my decision and mine alone. But, after scoring a date with a real, honest to God, 10 (amazing face, body, personality, life, etc.) I began to fantasize about tearing off her panties and banging her into enlightenment during the first date.

I immediately kicked myself as I realized how close this woman had come to making me sacrifice my DJ standard of ethics like a sub-AFC fool! What your morals are do not matter so much, as that you stick to them. No matter how many 10s are waving their perfectly manicured pu**y* in your face.

 

[Isko]

Girls aren't any different from guys really. They do have the added burden of pregnancy as a possibility, and the social stigma of being called a slut... But they enjoy casual sex.

The human race is wired for both monogamy and casual sex. You say that some girls are wired to go after long term partners, but every girl is wired the same. Some, through social conditioning or life circumstances, are more interested in one thing or the other, but any girl has both a potential girlfriend and a potential slut inside her. It's not wrong to bring one or the other out. Don't worry so much about it. Now if you promise her a relationship, **** her, and leave, that's immoral IMO... But casual sex in itself is usually healthier than relationships in my experience. It all depends on what they're looking for. People looking for relationships are generally lonely and want someone to hang out with, or they are inexperienced and think that it's their best shot at having steady sex, or they're interested in settling down and having kids.

 

[Cry For Love]

Morality is subjective

 

[corrector]

You are asking if pumping and dumping a girl is wrong? Imagine that girl was your little sister and answer that yourself.

Then again, these women play games with other guys so what goes around comes around. A woman can make a false rape allegation if she's really pissed though.

 

[Allurre]

It really varies according to what kind of INTERACTION you're pushing with you and your partner.

The more women you meet, the more you'll come to realize that some just want to get some, while some are in search for a 'boyfriend'

It's up to you to settle the score and standard.

 

[Furyguy]

If she didn't want to sleep with you, she wouldn't. You are both giving each other something that the other person wants. Sounds pretty cut and dry to me.

If she is using sex as a means to get something else that she wants from you, she is trying to manipulate you. If she tries to manipulate you, and fails, I see no reason to feel bad about this.

 

[Warrior74]

You are asking if pumping and dumping a girl is wrong? Imagine that girl was your little sister and answer that yourself.

Then again, these women play games with other guys so what goes around comes around. A woman can make a false rape allegation if she's really pissed though.

Wow. Your mindset is so interesting. I have a buddy. His sisters are hoes and he knows it. He's been behind the curtian his whole life, he knows how they talk when guys aren't around he knows how women really are. So if his sisters get pumped and dumped then thats sorta expected. The key in this game is to know who you are dealing with.

There are three types of women. Good girls, freaks and hoes. Good girls are probably not going to go for a one night stand anyway. The freaks and hoes will because they either just want sex or they want sex and money or just money. Since you know freaks and hoes aren't in it for who you are as a person, why should you give them any more consideration than they give you? You have two choices with those types. Pump and Dump, or leave them alone all together.

I think most of you guys here really just want to find a good girl and settle down. The problem is, most good girls aren't gonna be those same hot girls you lust over. They aren't, stop expecting to find a HB10 with morals and a strong sense of right and wrong...it may happen, but don't hold your breath. You're no different than the fat chic who wants some muscled guy with a ton of money and a heart of gold. Fantasy! If you want that 10 its gonna be a dirty game to get her. If you want that hot freak in the club,she's not gonna be that moral chic you want as the mother of your child. There are trade offs for everything.

 

[Scars]

Wow. Your mindset is so interesting. I have a buddy. His sisters are hoes and he knows it. He's been behind the curtian his whole life, he knows how they talk when guys aren't around he knows how women really are. So if his sisters get pumped and dumped then thats sorta expected. The key in this game is to know who you are dealing with.

There are three types of women. Good girls, freaks and hoes. Good girls are probably not going to go for a one night stand anyway. The freaks and hoes will because they either just want sex or they want sex and money or just money. Since you know freaks and hoes aren't in it for who you are as a person, why should you give them any more consideration than they give you? You have two choices with those types. Pump and Dump, or leave them alone all together.

I think most of you guys here really just want to find a good girl and settle down. The problem is, most good girls aren't gonna be those same hot girls you lust over. They aren't, stop expecting to find a HB10 with morals and a strong sense of right and wrong...it may happen, but don't hold your breath. You're no different than the fat chic who wants some muscled guy with a ton of money and a heart of gold. Fantasy! If you want that 10 its gonna be a dirty game to get her. If you want that hot freak in the club,she's not gonna be that moral chic you want as the mother of your child. There are trade offs for everything.

This is gold right here. +1 rep.

For me, I just remind myself that woman are amoral creatures at heart. It makes it a lot more easier to be apathetic about my actions. In my mindset, if you don't fvck her over, then she will just do it to you later. Once you realize how woman REALLY are than it's hard to show any sympathy towards them at all. I say you pump and dump. If there's no "good girls" in your area, then all they're good for is sex anyway. Think of dating as a temporary arrangement.

 

[horaholic]

If you sleep with a girl who wants a long term relationship with you, won't you hurt her feelings after she learns you just used her for sex? Isn't this wrong? If you put yourself in her shoes, wouldn't you prefer men not to use you for just sex?

Isnt she just using you for a relationship as well? If she doesnt want to be used, she should make the man work a little before putting out, to weed out the players. Also, i guarantee she has done her fair share of using too. Just ask her super nice guy'friend.' Besides, she will (hopefully, anyway) enjoy the sex as much as you anyway.

Also, a woman doesnt have any trouble finding a man for a relationship. Women that complain about men that only want sex, and nothing more, are either fat and ugly, slump-killers, or are only attracted to the kind of guys who hump and dump. The former, if you pursued a relationship with them, would be turned off.

Basically, do whatever you want, as long as you're honest with yourself, and hopefully them too. Its only wrong if you lie to them, and SAY you want a relationship, then pump and dump. Dont make any promises you dont intend to keep. If she ASSUMES that you will have a relationship just because you humped, its her own fault. She'll learn a lesson from it, and hopefully be a better person for it, so she really owes you a thanks.

 

[mrRuckus]

If you sleep with a girl who wants a long term relationship with you, won't you hurt her feelings after she learns you just used her for sex?

So you're saying that it would hurt her less if you used her for sex AND other things?

 

[Rescue Mission]

morals - never follow other people's morals, never

you are NOT living someone else's life, you are living your OWN life - this means that other than laws (which would land you in jail if you break them and you are caught), you are not required to follow anyone else's way of thinking!

You need to do whatever you truly want to do, and after living life a little, CREATE YOUR OWN MORALS.

What does it matter than some guy that you know married the first girl that gave him a kiss, and now he is happily married for 20 years - that's his life, not yours, don't use his morals

What does it matter that some guy that you know has 4 girlfriends, and booty calls on the side, and lies to every single chick he sees - that's his life, and his morals that work for him!!

It is YOUR job to gather the info necessary to create your own morals - right now while you have a clean slate, feel free to do whatever THE FVCK that you want, just obey the laws, and otherwise you are not ever EVER doing anything wrong

nobody cares about you more than yourself, so you had better act like it!

 

[bigjohnson]

You are asking if pumping and dumping a girl is wrong? Imagine that girl was your little sister and answer that yourself.

You are asking if having a lot of sex in an LTR or marriage is wrong? Imagine that girl was your little sister and answer that yourself.

 

[Ice882]

I think the better question is are one night stands synonym?