are my friends playing a part in holding me back?

[TheGameMaster]

ive been at uni for a month and in the nicest possible way, my friends are nerds. Theres a group of 6 of us that hang out...3 of them are obviously virgins that wouldnt stand a chance of pulling a HB6 or higher. Theyd never approach a girl in any situation.
the other 2 are terrible with girls..they stalk them on the dance floor and wave to girls in the creepiest way...its just not good. Im embarrassed to be with them in nightclubs when they do that.

should i look for new friends? these guys are nice, you know theyre good to me but i couldnt imagine going on holiday with them clubbing or something theyre not the right sort.

do you think that they are holding me back? should i be able to pull hotties regardless of having low status friends? thats what they are..low status betas who dont look like improving.
I feel like a bit of a prick for saying this about them but its really getting to me.

Thanks for advice in advance fellas

 

[chinwaggler]

Introduce them to the game..

 

[Warrior74]

The Classic "Should I ditch my Loser Friends" Question.

The anwser is no and yes.

First of all, if they are your friends they mean something to you. You know they are good and cool people, just everyone else may not. **** what everyone else thinks. They are 'still your boys.

Now that being said. There is such a thing as social circles. You are allowed to have friends who are losers, geeks, jocks, business people, artists, etc. You can have several different groups of friends. It's allowed. Do the things you like to do with your boys, and go out clubbing with your club friends or solo.

If you can become a leader amongst your friends and start telling them about the game in sutble ways. "Hey man, put this shirt with those pants" "Make sure your shoes are clean and fresh, girls like that". Guide them that way. I've watched my old pothead friends slowly start to step their game up, because I have stepped mine up. Good Luck!

 

[sodbuster]

How are they your friends? 2 months at College or life time?Guys you've known for 2 months shouldn't have the same level of loyalty. 2 months, I might just have more friends

 

[MisterMcGee]

Social circles, baby

 

[DonJuan11]

ive been at uni for a month and in the nicest possible way, my friends are nerds. Theres a group of 6 of us that hang out...3 of them are obviously virgins that wouldnt stand a chance of pulling a HB6 or higher. Theyd never approach a girl in any situation.
the other 2 are terrible with girls..they stalk them on the dance floor and wave to girls in the creepiest way...its just not good. Im embarrassed to be with them in nightclubs when they do that.

should i look for new friends?

do you think that they are holding me back? should i be able to pull hotties regardless of having low status friends? thats what they are..low status betas who dont look like improving.
I feel like a bit of a prick for saying this about them but its really getting to me.

Thanks for advice in advance fellas

It's not your friends, it's you. I know people who have the loser-est friends ever and they pull hot girls every night because they know how to talk, how to make a women feel special, how to excite them with interesting stories.

If you use a hatchet to ditch them, what kind of friend are you? You only want to be friends with people who can sleep with girls? If my friend told me that, I would say "good riddance."

Keep your friends, but work on your game. Don't use them as a scapegoat for not pulling women.

 

[daygameguy]

ive been at uni for a month and in the nicest possible way, my friends are nerds. Theres a group of 6 of us that hang out...3 of them are obviously virgins that wouldnt stand a chance of pulling a HB6 or higher. Theyd never approach a girl in any situation.
the other 2 are terrible with girls..they stalk them on the dance floor and wave to girls in the creepiest way...its just not good. Im embarrassed to be with them in nightclubs when they do that.

should i look for new friends? these guys are nice, you know theyre good to me but i couldnt imagine going on holiday with them clubbing or something theyre not the right sort.

do you think that they are holding me back? should i be able to pull hotties regardless of having low status friends? thats what they are..low status betas who dont look like improving.
I feel like a bit of a prick for saying this about them but its really getting to me.

Thanks for advice in advance fellas

1. Don't leave your friends.
2. Get some more friends who CAN pull chicks, and be your wings.
3. Step up your game, so you don't feel dependent on the need to have cool guys as friends/wings.

 

[Aragon034]

It's not your friends, it's you. I know people who have the loser-est friends ever and they pull hot girls every night because they know how to talk, how to make a women feel special, how to excite them with interesting stories.

If you use a hatchet to ditch them, what kind of friend are you? You only want to be friends with people who can sleep with girls? If my friend told me that, I would say "good riddance."

Keep your friends, but work on your game. Don't use them as a scapegoat for not pulling women.

i think there is more to it than that. A real friend would understand that everyone is different and even though they are friends, there are things they won't enjoy together.

The OP said his group of friends are "nerds" They aren't exactly viewed high on teh social ladder. like it or not, who we associate with factors in what others think of us. If you only hung out with "nerds" assumptions would be made about you before anybody even gets to know you. You'd have less connections within your inner social circle to the kind of parties, events, and people that you're after (lets face it, Nerds hang with Nerds)

it's basically wearing wooden shoes while running the marathon, sure you can finish, but it's alot harder.

There's also something to be said about being the Alpha leader of the group, but being a weak pack shows on you as well. one group's Alpha is another group's Beta.

i see nothing wrong in having several social circles, in fact i encourage it! it creates options and widens your network for all sorts of things. There's nothing wrong with "being loyal" to your original core group of friends, but if they don't want to do what you really want to do, then you shouldn't stagnate and do nothing out of some misguided sense of "friendship". You can stay friends and do the stuff you do, but that doesn't mean you can't do other things.

as long as they don't try and actively keep you from doing the stuff you really want to be doing (as was in my case unfortunately) i see nothing wrong with staying amicable with them.

It's up to them whether they want to help you, hinder you, or ignore you. But your life is yours, don't let someone else decide what you actually are going to do.

 

[The Master Disaster]

I have been at college for almost 3 years now, and I have friends who can't pull girls if they had a lamborghini and a million dollars, but they're my boys. They're good people, and they're people I would like to keep in contact with.

The thing is you can't constrain yourself to the group. I have have these women-challenged friends, but I also have friends who can pull any girl they want. It's all about expanding your social life.

If you don't reach out and make more friends, you're going to be held back, but never, ever blame your friends for your mistakes. That's bro rule #2 or was it #3.

 

[TheGameMaster]

the comments/ advice from you people is out of this world. thanks guys!!