Are my approaches on the right path???????

[ShyRyder]

I’ve had three approach attempts in 2 days. Man I’m getting more aggressive and to the point where I don’t give a fvck what she or others think. But my closing is struggling because I’m getting a lot of one word responses. Yes and I know from my approach journal not to make it like an interview and to use humor, trust me I’ve been trying.

And for those of you familiar with what Gunwitch and Pook where saying regarding sexuality. I’m wondering if I should just keep persisting if my sexuality fades or just isn’t there?

This morning at street crossing

Ryder: how you doing?

HB:what?

Ryder: HOW U DOING

HB: good

Ryder: what are you up too

HB: going to school

Ryder: What school to you go to

HB: Its at here and here

Ryder: your going pretty late

HB: yea

Ryder: your skipping aren’t U (tried humor and busting here)

HB:yea

Then I thought to myself I’m getting no where and there is no sexuality so what’s the point? Is this my problem and I should continue and try to carry the convo until she opens up more or is she just no interested.

Coming back this morning on the bus, went to the mall by the way.

Ryder: how you doing

Milf: good

Ryder: what’s up to
Milf: going to meet my husband

(Here I’m thinking it like a light rejection)

Ryder :What’s your background:

Milf: Portuguese

Ryder: tudo bem?

Milf: huh?

Ryder: tudo bem

Milf: huh?

Ryder: Como vai

Milf: bem

MIlf: voce fala portuges

Ryder: um pouco

Ryder: nao fala portugese

MIlf: Eu falo

(I think I impressed her there)

Ryder: so what do you do for fun

Milf: I go out with my kids …… my husband(she seem flustered)

Ryder: Where do u go

MIlf: out to coffee ( her English wasn’t too great so that might be a factor)

I just left it after that

I think I still having some issues with letting everyone know I wanna fvck, and the was highlighted by the fact she had kids and a husband, like I’m doing something wrong.

So what should I do in these cases keep on persisting regardless?
And can someone give me a better opening.

 

[flippinfreak]

question, after question, after question, after question... they aren't even interesting questions... just run of the mill stoned and bored questions that two people who don't want to know eachother ask.

I was called a questionnaire as a kid as well, because I had no desire to change anything, or tease people, I thought they would get angry...

Think of something you WANT to say... and than plan on how to get her to know what your talking about...

Want her to go for a bike ride with you? You want her to say "I enjoy bicycle rides in the park" or something along the lines of "I like"

To get a girl to say that, you don't ASK her a question. You make her WANT to say it, to be part of the conversation... hello... beatiful day isn't it... walking is making my feet sore... do you own a bike? Of course it's a bad example, well because going for a bike ride is not in style anymore, but as a kid it was my number one pick up

I just see that everything you are saying to her is a question, no comments, no storys, no jokes, no teasing, nothing sexual whatsoever. One of the best ways to open up sexuality is to lead the conversation to let her feel comfortable with you talking about something close to her body... mental kino, verbal kino, whatever it is, just talk about things that are closer to her.

Do some searches as well... seems like you haven't followed any advice.

edit: here's a good one Seductive conversations

 

[ShyRyder]

Dude I’m trying I kinda feel if I don’t ask questions the convo will go nowhere and their will just be silence. Comments I can do. How about something “that’s a big purse”? And I guess I can try to bust on her for having a big purse. I’m not anykind of a story teller and I don’t use a script. Busting and jokes I’m trying trust me. Yea I’ll read some more bible passages.

other imput

 

[flippinfreak]

Heh, I almost forgot... your JUST getting into this, I thought you were around for a while and you were wondering why it wasn't turning sexual.

What you've got to do, is force conversations... force like conversation after conversation. Go to a mall away from your usual hang out and sarge sarge sarge. Approach anybody and everybody, kids, old people, guys, girls, gangs, bus drivers, cab drivers, store clerks, janitors, stand near the bathrooms... Just drill your mind that EVERYTHING can be made unexpected.

Right now, it sounds like your just climbing out of your shell. You have to experiment.

"hit the ground running"

 

[Freewheelin Frank]

Convos are hard man, I just can't think of interesting things to say.

The things I know and like to talk about aren't things that women like or have any interest in.

 

[jackie_legs]

Hey man you did alright. next time when you ask a question and she answers make a comment then ask another question.

also you will have better luck if you approach people not walking. I found that out.

life if shes sitting donw approach. or looking at something make a comment.

 

[Vibe]

Look at everything to see what you can comment on. Notice what she's wearing, where she's headed, anything else in the area. I like to open conversations by saying something about the surroundings. Then you can push it further. Questions like "where do you go to school", "what do you do for fun", and "what's your major" are superficial questions. Women don't dig that stuff. When you open with stuff like that, it shows you don't really understand women. They are emotional beings, so you should ask them emotional questions. These are questions that inquire how she FEELS about things. Ask her if she likes to read, what she likes to watch on TV, what does she want to do with her life, has she traveled anywhere cool recently. These are all basic questions that will subconsciously let her know that you are interested in WHO she is.

And you also have to be interactive in the conversation. Ask her a question, then respond with something related to her answer. If she gives you a lame, one-word answer, say something about yourself. Respond with things that are kind of ambiguous and make her want to know more about you.

Another interesting thing that a lot of DJs will be afraid to try is if she seems reserved, CONFIDENTLY say, "Hey, don't worry. I'm not trying to get into your pants or anything. I just felt like chatting." Not only will this let her know that you understand what women have to go through every day, it will give her the frame that she can EARN your affection. So now a little later, you can say "Hey, I wasn't sure at first, but you actually seem pretty cool" and go from there.

 

[Distant Light]

What style do you want to do Indirect or Direct? or you want to learn both? (put dat on hold)

For the sexaulity part you don't really need to go in when its on or off and you don't have to eject because ur sexuality is off.

Indirect
I usually don't really go in sexual (Gunwitch method) I usually try to raise there BT (buying temperature) to build sexual tension instead of going in hard showing that I'm thinking of fuvking her. I usually wait for when I'm in rapport. If you want to go this route ur best bet is to start off using canned material so you can get and idea of some of the elements that way you can come up with your own stuff. Like learning how to make up stories (true stories or lies) that convey your personality. Once you get her attracted you can use all those DJ stuff, would make it even better if you learn Jugglers stuff too for rapport.

Direct
Is kinda like what your trying to do now. Djs are also considered direct because like the real Direct methods (badboy, shark, etc) they have strong inner game. Direct inner game can really get you a strong inner game.

But for now the advice I'd give to you is...

Learn to open better because saying "how are you doing" or "hi" etc is considered rapport seeking. You don't want to come into her reality you want her to come into yours. Try to ask more neutral questions or questions that brings her into your reality for an opener.

For example
(tattoo opener)
You: Hey would you ever get a tattoo?
Hb: no/yes/maybe
You: See My sister/cousin/niece wants to get a tattoo of her bfs name on her shoulder
hb:blah blah blah
*You got her hooked because she is now talking and haven't walked off yet, at this time you could probably going into a background story conveying your sister/cousin/niece personaltiy and you could add yourself in the story and raise your value.*

you should doing most of the talking for like the first 5 mins. Also you can maybe add something in the story to transition smoothly to do something else, for instance if she said ya she would get a tattoo, you could be like

You: What kinda of tatto would you get? wait you know, you would get a xxx (any anything) because your a xxxx (good girl, evil, have a bad side, etc)

I'll prob post more later I have to go

 

[ShyRyder]

Thanks guys, it took awhile for the stuff to get into my thick skull but I think I’m going to start to get it. My last approach went pretty well you can check it

36 approaches level up

My approach a day streak ended on Saturday. Sunday is almost over and I aint going out again

I have a new strategy that I’m going to say almost verbatim and I’ve been brainstorming to kind of get my mind on point. If you guys could add to it that would be great thanks.


Observational Opener

On Street
Comment on weather
“man there is so much litery in this city”
“man there are to many cars in this city”

On bus/train or at station
“These buses take so long sometimes”
“man some of these drives can’t drive for shlt”
“they never send the Air condition bus on this route”
“I love these Air condition trains”

Library
“it’s so relaxing in here”
“it’s always empty/ packed in here”
“the lighting could be better in here” (A girl actually used this on me but I lack skill)

Work
“there is always new faces around here”
“it always so hot in here”
lunch room
“so many people take their break late”
“nobody takes their break early”

Martial arts studio
“master is in a good/ bad mood today”
”it’s so stuffy/hot/ whatever in here”
”it nice and cool today in here”
“its crowded/empty today”

What brings you out? (verbatim everytime)

HB: School/work

On a beautiful day like this your going to school/work. Damn you must love it. You would probably work/school 24hrs a day if you could.

HB: Shopping/Mall

Let me guess your one of those people who circle the mall all day but don’t buy nothing.

HB: Grocery Shopping/restaurant.

You eat up all the food in you house for the week already ,damn.

HB: To or From friends

Wait hold on a second you have friends, you.




I think that cover all the responses I have gotten.



What do you like to do with your time? (verbatim everytime)

I write up some for these soon

 

[shydude]

Hmm well its good you gain confidence!! But your questoins kinda boring. And try to close up the meeting faster,close up with # at the end.

 

[Blackdragon5095]

Yes you are on the right path. I see you appoarching more and more. You are gainning new confidence. Ketp it coming man.

Remember shyryder. Quitters always quit, Winners never quit.