"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Are men better looking than women?

JdelaSilviera

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Hi,

I'm starting to think that this is true, especially after 25.

1) I see much more males in shape than females

2) I only see a very small % of females who look good without make up (still they are deluded enough to state that 80% of males are ugly as you will easilly find on google).
Where good looking guys are naturally good looking.

You see, the number 1 weapon women have normally, is their "superior" looks, but if you think that most of them are ugly without makeup, we can easilly see that women have tricked us into thinking they are "too good" for us. Your HB 10 at the club is probably a real 7 at most....
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Who Dares Win

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Many thinks that male kids mistreat female kids because they have no libido or need for validation.

Male kids treat female kids bad because they can see through their lack of added value to their life without their look to hijack their reason, the use of make up changes that, it really tricks your mind.

Even top models and top actresses if thrown in sea water for few minutes and taken away wearing just with a bikini wouldnt be that hot.

Make up especially over exagerate feminine traits that signal beauty to the male brain, eyes looks bigger, noses look smaller, skin looks more sane and even and so on.

Imagine some cream that would make danny devito's head look full of hair, his face symmetric, his jaw squared and his overall look rugged like bruce willis...you get my point.

Regarding the physical shape, like 80% of women above 30 if totally natural and wearing a bikini not only wouldnt be attractive, some may even look scary.

A sign of how women manipulate their perception of them is to compare their facebook profile picture to what they really look like in real life...and in real life they still use make up.
 

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Women use all sorts of tricks to manipulate their "beauty". They wear corsets to flatten their tummies. Heels for added height. Fake eyelashes and all sorts of tricks.

It usually comes crashing down in the morning and the man has to face the horror that is her post makeup face and body.
 

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Exactly, many look scary indeed. You only need to search for Adriana Lima or Scarlet Johanson whom are considered to be among the best looking females on the planet, without make up... And there you get an "aha" moment.

What really bothers me is this culture of fat acceptance, who strenghents the lack of willpower among many females to eat right and exercise. And the consequence is that many top looking guys, with great careers have to fight like dogs to get a 6,5/7 which is really the best you can get after 25.

The 1 in a million good looking female shouldn't be brought to this discussion...
 

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Few women exercise. Period. Then they cry about being overweight and the like. They diet and eat healthy until they get in a relationship. Then they get fat and ugly cuz they think they can settle down (whereas of the guy did this, she would get all pissy). Once the breakup happens, she immediately goes back to the dieting. Most 'hot' girls could look so much better. They usually just have naturally aesthetic looks and bodies. But their internal organs are probably very strained and will kill her afterwards if she stays with the same habits.

Just work out. It's not that hard.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I don't know if men are better looking cause I don't judge mens looks.

As for women 98 percent of them drop a few point with out the make-up, even the ones with naturally beauty drop one point by default. My mom use to tell me when I went through a insecure phase in my life. "All those girls you like...even wonder what they look like with out make up?" Then I started noticing and being to see it for the truth it was....picking up randoms from a bar in club with has low lighting, (lighting can be just as good or better then make-up) bring them home nail them, wake up to a stranger lol.

Only thing women got in terms of beauty is there body which is amazing, I could care less about the face unless I am procreating
 

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PeasantPlayer said:
I don't know if men are better looking cause I don't judge mens looks.

As for women 98 percent of them drop a few point with out the make-up, even the ones with naturally beauty drop one point by default. My mom use to tell me when I went through a insecure phase in my life. "All those girls you like...even wonder what they look like with out make up?" Then I started noticing and being to see it for the truth it was....picking up randoms from a bar in club with has low lighting, (lighting can be just as good or better then make-up) bring them home nail them, wake up to a stranger lol.

Only thing women got in terms of beauty is there body which is amazing, I could care less about the face unless I am procreating
That's the thing that sets them apart. Without makeout many of the "9's and 10's" look very normal.

However an incredible body can set them apart. Most of the hot girls are just "skinny girls" with some t1ts or rear.

There are also "thick" hot girls who have a little more meat on em, are "big girls" as in big framed 5'10" girl who has meat on her but it's proportionate and it's not fat.

In the end without makeup and the tricks and social structure it's just a nother female!
 

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I haven't seen a 9 yet in my life with make-up, but I have seen a 8 1/2 tops with make-up, but yes the body sets them apart, their butt, hips, legs, feet, breasts
 

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Lol, this thread again. Look, the fact of the matter is that female beauty drives sexuality. Men are attracted to the female curves, the breasts, the behind, the tiny waist, the smooth skin, their relatively hairless legs, smaller feet, and feminine facial features (larger eyes and mouth to face ratio).

Men's bodies are built more for action. We don't have extra layers of fat to smooth out our features and make our skin baby soft. What drives sexuality is our desire to get our hands (and lips) on their bodies, it's just a fact.

I do think men are more average looking - women seem to fall more into either the hot category or wouldn't touch that hag in a million years category. Men tend to be more in the middle.
 

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lol Zekko. I used to think the way you do. And note, that as a straight guy, I don't find good looking guys attractive. But I know what kind of guys attract women hugely. Although some women have killer bodies -btw this happens till they are 25 generally speaking and being generous- after this age, not only their bodies suffer, but also a huge proportion of them are terrible without make up.

I would say that female and male looks are a bit like IQ. Men tend to fall more into extremes. The worst looking humans you will see are males, you have tons of guys who don't seem to wash themselves. But on the other side a guy that is a 10 is 10.... I have had too many "disappointments" (some to the point of shock) with girls who put a ton of make up on them. I really do think that most are just ugly without extra help..
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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JdelaSilviera said:
lol Zekko. I used to think the way you do. And note, that as a straight guy, I don't find good looking guys attractive. But I know what kind of guys attract women hugely. Although some women have killer bodies -btw this happens till they are 25 generally speaking and being generous- after this age, not only their bodies suffer, but also a huge proportion of them are terrible without make up.

I would say that female and male looks are a bit like IQ. Men tend to fall more into extremes. The worst looking humans you will see are males, you have tons of guys who don't seem to wash themselves. But on the other side a guy that is a 10 is 10.... I have had too many "disappointments" (some to the point of shock) with girls who put a ton of make up on them. I really do think that most are just ugly without extra help..
I don't even think I'm giving an opinion here, I'm just looking at the facts. I realized this when I was fairly young, it was actually a bit of a blow to me - a bit like swallowing the red pill, you might say. But women's bodies are the objects of desire in sexuality.

Look at strip clubs, there are far more men paying to see women strip than women paying to see men strip. Look at porn - female porn stars are paid more than men. Nude women are in demand far more than nude men, it's just FACT.

As for falling into extremes, as I said before, I think it's the women who are more in the extremes. Older, fat, ugly women on one end and younger, slim, hot women on the other. More men tend to be in the middle, looks-wise. Which is one reason (out of many) why there are more elements to a man's SMV than just looks.
 

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I'm only attracted to 10% of women. Most of them are ugly to me.
 

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skinnyguy said:
I'm only attracted to 10% of women. Most of them are ugly to me.

Haha that or after they open their mouth and speak they become unattractive. I've met very few girls who I found physically attractive that I found interesting to speak to. :rolleyes:
 
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