Are males who buy sex disgusting?

[spider_007]

On the other hand;

Most women that sell their bodies have been abused as kids, and are drug addicts.... and you’re not contributing anything positive to their lives, or their view of men (users). In fact you’re enabling them and furthering their misery just to satisfy your sexual needs.

If your morally ok with that, then who cares.

 

[scrouds]

On the other hand;

Most women that sell their bodies have been abused as kids, and are drug addicts.... and you’re not contributing anything positive to their lives, or their view of men (users). In fact you’re enabling them and furthering their misery just to satisfy your sexual needs.

If your morally ok with that, then who cares.

Morality is used by the powerful to control the weak.

 

[corrector]

On the other hand;

Most women that sell their bodies have been abused as kids, and are drug addicts.... and you’re not contributing anything positive to their lives, or their view of men (users). In fact you’re enabling them and furthering their misery just to satisfy your sexual needs.

If your morally ok with that, then who cares.

But you go around Windsor looking for street prostitutes and now you are saying this? So I guess you are no longer doing this?

This is if you want to deal with low level cheap prostitutes...but when you see they open their mouth and you see teeth missing I don't see how anyone would want to even stick their thing in a disgusting mouth.

In my area, if I do see a street prostitute, she's an ugly druggie you wouldn't want to deal with with a ten foot pole. You would have to disinfect your car seat with spray if you are stupid enough to leave the lock in your door open so she can come in and you have to pay her to get her out of your car peacefully. You should see how fast I hit the automatic lock on my car door before she touches the lever in total panic.

The best hookers are advertised and offer incall or outcall service -- not street walkers. So, I agree with the presumption that men who use street walkers are disgusting. But men who use escorts -- I don't know.

 

[spider_007]

But you go around Windsor looking for street prostitutes and now you are saying this? So I guess you are no longer doing this?

oh, no I still do it from time to time.
That's why i say: "if you’re ok with that, who cares"
I'm a fvcked up - discusting human being... i knew that since childhood.

The best hookers are advertised and offer incall or outcall service -- not street walkers. So, I agree with the presumption that men who use street walkers are disgusting. But men who use escorts -- I don't know.

The whole sex industry is plagued with drugies and victims of child abuse. There might be that 1% that's clean and normal, but I’m talking about the majority. Just because she's cute and charges $1000 / hour doesn't mean i can't find one that looks & fvcks like her for $100. It' also doesn't mean she's doing it cause she likes it... Who do you think thought them to fvck whenever someone else wants...I’m telling you, it's either daddy, uncle, or mommys old boyfriend...
Take a week off, put together 5,000 and spend a week in a stripclub....you'll learn quick what sex industry really is.

I could give a day long lecture on the subject.

 

[spider_007]

Does your definition include gold-diggers as well?

How about groupies (who are just another breed of gold-digger?

Women are always selling their bodies, the difference is whether they overtly or covertly do it.

if you can find them....good for your...make sure you spend a month with them to make sure what their reasons are for doing this.

on a side note...here are some statistics:
http://crossculturalconnections.org/documents/sex_stats.pdf

 

[corrector]

oThe whole sex industry is plagued with drugies and victims of child abuse. There might be that 1% that's clean and normal, but I’m talking about the majority.

I don't know about that. Some women are into that too.

Just because she's cute and charges $1000 / hour doesn't mean i can't find one that looks & fvcks like her for $100. It' also doesn't mean she's doing it cause she likes it...

Allot of people do jobs they don't necessarily like to do...at least she is being generously compensated. A janitor, or someone cleaning toilets that have sh1t around may be getting minimum-wage.

Let's face it, these escorts probably make $ 10 000 in a week and receive validation that men love them sexually and are willing to pay to have them for a time.

Who do you think thought them to fvck whenever someone else wants...I’m telling you, it's either daddy, uncle, or mommys old boyfriend...
Take a week off, put together 5,000 and spend a week in a stripclub....you'll learn quick what sex industry really is.

I could give a day long lecture on the subject.

But you only use mainly street-hookers. I've contended that I think street-hookers are disgusting because now-a-days, most escorts that are worth fvcking put up ads on the internet and operate from their apartments and want to make quick cash to pay the bills or tuition and while I don't participate with that, I can see why a horney guy may go to them. Paying $ 100-$200 to do a hot girl that looks like a model and treats you like a king (assuming the service is good) does not seem like you are targeting a druggie, child abuse, or trafficking case but looks like a win-win scenario. She's making allot of money from people like you, and you have instant access to a hot girl that wouldn't give you the time of day in real life or don't have to worry about false rape charges after you are gone.

That being said, I think there is still one big disgusting red-flag element out of all this. The fact is the guy you just saw walk out of her apartment before you walked in will hit home that this lady may be seeing more than one guy that same day. Some of them do not clean up. Imagine going on a bed that is wet, or seeing her still dirty from the previous guy after you paid her, what you call "evidence of traffic". That to me is very disgusting to the point of nausea. I would imagine if you pay a higher price for some escorts, or look for it, you may find an escort that just sees one guy per day or a few guys but are spaced out so it doesn't look like an assembly line. But beyond that -- and I mean from a male's perspective, and not speculating on whether the woman has some sort of issues with drugs, child-abuse, or whatever, this sort of thing does seem rather disgusting on the "assembly line' or "evidence of traffic" sort of thing.

I don't think that ALL women who are promiscious, whether they do certain types of men in their preference or whatever premise they will do a random guy (including a fixed set of money) are necessarily abused as children. Some women actually just love having sex, right?

 

[spider_007]

I don't know about that. Some women are into that too.

Lets say your right....i'll bring 10 of them and you can point out wich once they are. Can you do it with 100% certanty???? My point is; you don't know what your fvcking...and chances are (lot more then 50%) that i'll be a drugie or a victom.
Look at the last link.

Let's face it, these escorts probably make $ 10 000 in a week and receive validation that men love them sexually and are willing to pay to have them for a time.

Absolutly. Daddy loves them...in the only way he knows how to show them...just like all men she sees.

When have you known a woman to love or respect a TRICK. A Trick i there to give you money...and the more money you can get for less work the better.... You'll have to pretend tho...you'll have to make him feel good about him self....tell him how big his d!ck is...and powwww, he might even come back few more times

..... Some women actually just love having sex, right?

yea it's a posibility....some women may actualy have a fantasy about some stranger fvck her even tho she is not attracted to him (may be fat, anti-social, clumsy, old, bald, hairy) and her not having any reall choice about it eather....it's possible...but probably doesn't happen offten.

....because now-a-days, most escorts that are worth fvcking put up ads on the internet....

Obviously you’ve never had a “runaway”. My fav. I get to take out my anger and frustration with all the women who rejected me…as she turns her head and quietly sobs.

But beyond that -- and I mean from a male's perspective, and not speculating on whether the woman has some sort of issues with drugs, child-abuse, or whatever, this sort of thing does seem rather disgusting on the "assembly line' or "evidence of traffic" sort of thing.

Absolutly...Most of the time i leave those thoughts for after i'm done . Sometimes I go home, get in the shower and almost. cry.......almost.

 

[corrector]

When have you known a woman to love or respect a TRICK.

I don't know, I've never used an escort. Only once I've spent $ 20.00 to test out a prostitute, but when I saw her mouth had missing teeth and have this wierd look, I got too disgusted and wanted her out of my sight as quickly as possible and I got the heck out of there.

I also acted up with her. For example, I was touching her breasts, but asked her, did a baby ever suck those -- does she have children and what they thought about her doing this? You can guess how that went. So much for my adventures with prostitutes.

Have to be careful since words just come out of my mouth like air-bubbles under water.

yea it's a posibility....some women may actualy have a fantasy about some stranger fvck her even tho she is not attracted to him (may be fat, anti-social, clumsy, old, bald, hairy) and her not having any reall choice about it eather....it's possible...but probably doesn't happen offten.

This is a case by case thing. Women have sex with guys for different reasons. Maybe it just happens to be a blue moon.

Obviously you’ve never had a “runaway”. My fav. I get to take out my anger and frustration with all the women who rejected me…as she turns her head and quietly sobs.

What the fvck are you talking about? You kidnapped a woman who was hitchiking?

Absolutly...Most of the time i leave those thoughts for after i'm done . Sometimes I go home, get in the shower and almost. cry.......almost.

So you are also quietly sobbing?

Well, for someone who is an admitted user of street prostitutes, escorts, and who kidnapes runaways and rapes them, I guess that has some credibility to someone who wasted $ 20.00 on a prostitute to enquire about her children thinks about her occupation.

 

[scrouds]

I don't know, I've never used an escort. Only once I've spent $ 20.00 to test out a prostitute, but when I saw her mouth had missing teeth and have this wierd look, I got too disgusted and wanted her out of my sight as quickly as possible and I got the heck out of there.

I also acted up with her. For example, I was touching her breasts, but asked her, did a baby ever suck those -- does she have children and what they thought about her doing this? You can guess how that went. So much for my adventures with prostitutes.

Heh. I haven't gone there, but that's because I'm too cheap to get a hot escort and too proud to have to pay for sex with someone I wouldn't ordinarily want to bang. If I could get reasonably pretty hookers at a reasonable price, I'd jump on it.

It really is a value thing. Price versus quality is the only thing keeping me out of the hooker market. Back to simple market economics.

 

[corrector]

Heh. I haven't gone there, but that's because I'm too cheap to get a hot escort and too proud to have to pay for sex with someone I wouldn't ordinarily want to bang. If I could get reasonably pretty hookers at a reasonable price, I'd jump on it.

If money is not an issue (I'm assuming when you say too cheap that means you have the money but feel ripped-off from hard earned money which is another story (i.e. she's there for 30 min - hour, you've given up to three days worth of hard earned pay, and in some cases a week or two weeks, and you'll probably feel like another number with a dollar sign on the forehead), then the solution is to fly to the Domenican Republics.

That way you can enjoy a girl without feeling ripped off, or so I've read. Heck, you can get laid for free there.

It really is a value thing. Price versus quality is the only thing keeping me out of the hooker market. Back to simple market economics.

But that is this country. You have to go to a poorer country where your dollar can go further and you can get more milage.

Now, I'd rather stay home and look for local escorts then go to the Domenican Republics (at Blackbeards) because I'm tied down too much here, and I don't see myself spending more than half-hour or hour with any escort anyway. Only makes sence if you are going to bang 20 girls in a week or so....which I think would also be disgusting. So yeah, people who buy sex with 20 women in a week are probably very disgusting.

 

[Lexington]

Yes, being a prostitute isn't the most desirable job in the world. If many of these girls could, they'd probably be doing something else. But then again, those folks working at McDonald's would probably rather be doing something else as well. You gotta do what you can do with what you got.

Only a very small percentage of people in the world actually have jobs that they always dreamed of. The most desirable, prestigious, respectable jobs are very hard to come by and only a small percentage of people who aspire to them can actually land them. Most folks are just doing what they do so that they can pay the bills.

Yes, these escorts probably really don't enjoy what they're doing. Yeah, they're probably just putting on act. But is that really any different than a customer service representative pretending to be super enthusiastic and friendly? A lot of jobs these days require what they call "emotional labor." It's the projection of certain emotions even if that person doesn't necessarily feel them.

 

[spider_007]

Lexington
It's not McDonalds...they get raped 2-3 times a year (more like couple of hundred times since they dont want it anyways, but don't have much of a choice....) Pimps beat on them, rob them....psychological trauma... I'm not saying these women don't have a part to play in this, after all we make our own destiny, but as a person you got to draw the line somewhere....where you do, it's up to you...you know my storry.

but it kind of gives you an answer that was originaly asked in this thread; "are males who buy sex disgusting?"
and the answer is, big fat: YES,

 

[corrector]

For a self-proclaimed user of prostitutes that includes runaways, this guy here appears to have a guilt-trip to the point of calling it rape and goes aheads and does it.

Lexington
It's not McDonalds...they get raped 2-3 times a year (more like couple of hundred times since they dont want it anyways, but don't have much of a choice....) Pimps beat on them, rob them....psychological trauma... I'm not saying these women don't have a part to play in this, after all we make our own destiny, but as a person you got to draw the line somewhere....where you do, it's up to you...you know my storry.

I don't buy this concept because you seem to be focusing on female street crack addicts rather than escorts that are independent and putting up ads on craiglist and making a quick buck from desperate guys that are tired of masturbating at home and want a touch of a woman.

I think if anyone is victimized it is men because they are getting ripped off paying lots of money to get a touch of a woman when this should really be free or at a much lower cost.

Then there is the other aspect is this could spoil you. You are not going to be very motivated to develop game and try to seduce a normal women out there if you can just pay your way and start banging a hot girl. Also, if you end up broke or poor, you'll feel you have no chance of getting laid by anyone which is not very nice if this is the only way anyone's getting laid. So, I'd say this category of men that use prostitutes would be pathetic rather than disgusting.

There are lots of things you can buy for $ 100 - $ 200 that makes spending money on a 30 min - 1 hour and it is a crap shoot to find an escort that you feel there is good chemistry and really feels like a girlfriend or slvt. So, they make money very easy which is why they are doing the work.

They are ALWAYS free to quit their $ 200+ per hour thing and go and work at MacDonalds like everyone else for $ 5.00 per hour.

 

[scrouds]

I've got about $200 into material for building a boat (flat bottom canoe for fishing and hunting). I'd rather that.

 

[Lexington]

Lexington
It's not McDonalds...they get raped 2-3 times a year (more like couple of hundred times since they dont want it anyways, but don't have much of a choice....) Pimps beat on them, rob them....psychological trauma... I'm not saying these women don't have a part to play in this, after all we make our own destiny, but as a person you got to draw the line somewhere....where you do, it's up to you...you know my storry.

but it kind of gives you an answer that was originaly asked in this thread; "are males who buy sex disgusting?"
and the answer is, big fat: YES,

Not all prostitutes get raped. Yes there are those who are sex slaves and were forced into prostitution against their will. That is indeed disgusting and a crime. But there are also prostitutes who entered into the business by their own volition.

You can read numerous accounts by former prostitutes both online and in books who got into the business voluntarily. One common reason is that they had money problems and the other options they had available just didn't pay enough. Some of them chose to get into the business simply because they realized they could use their looks to make a lot of money.

So long as a prostitute chooses to enter into the profession, there is nothing disgusting about it.

 

[Tony T]

This POST reminds me of the time when i was driving a Cab on weekends. I would study all week and on Friday and Saturday nights...take out a CAB for money.

AS a Cab driver, I picked up Hookers and Strippers all the time. Some of them were High priced Call Girls...but most of them Most were Escorts or Strippers heading to work (druggies don't pay for cabs...they usually thumb rides).

More than a few of them had college degrees and some were professionals (nurses, secretaries, etc)....I KID YOU NOT !

One girl i recall...was a Nurse for 6 mths a year...and the other 6 mths spent in Florida, Stripping and doing Johns she'd meet at the club. I would pick her up all the time...and became her driver for some time. She told me....she made twice the money as a stripper/escort....as opposed to the RN pay she would get up north... She also loved the thrill of dancing and hooking....gave her a rush.

There are no hard and fast rules with prostitutes.

Any yes....many of the strippers work as Hookers. Its easy for them to pick up clients any night. They take um back home...and fvck um for $500. Nice Money.

I later became and mortgage broker and financed homes for these "poor helpless" girls. Many of them earn well over 150k per year....tax free. That's the equivalent of over 200k per year on the books.

You make that kinda money?

POINT 2: "Who's really being exploited...the smart stripper/escorts....or the poor Sap who has to fork over BIG BUCKS to tag a Hot chick?"

 

[Lexington]

There's no exploitation. It's a simple business transaction. A guy gets pvssy, the girl gets $$$. There's no victim here, what's the crime?

 

[sharkbeat]

No, they are not losers. Really, isn't that part of the reason why you are earning money: to enjoy yourself and have fun? I'd only do it if I travel outside of US where it's cheaper. Just wear condoms, and don't make that a habit.

 

[Jitterbug]

If you buy from the Maccas equivalent of brothels, then yeah it's disgusting. In countries where it's legalised and regulated, sex workers are cleaner than the random chicks you pick up at night clubs.

 

[PappyS]

People who think paying for sex is the worst thing in the world have difficulties with logic. Most STD's in developed countries spread through casual sex. There hasn't been a single documented case of HIV transmission through a heterosexual prostitution transaction in the USA. But there are thousands of gay men, hetero women and hetero men who catch HIV every year through unpaid recreational sex.

In some poorer countries STD's are often spread through prostitution. Historically STD's were spread by prostitution in Western countries also. But that is likely because of two factors:

(a) More restrictions on normal women's sexual behavior in conservative societies. Meaning women who aren't prostitutes are having less sex and are therefore less likely to spread STD's than their 'liberated' modern Western counterparts

and

(b) Historically and today in poorer countries, condoms may be less widely used for sex with prostitutes. But in wealthier countries today condoms are regularly used by prostitutes and their customers. Condoms will drastically cut rates of disease transmission.

Bottom line, a man using a condom with a prostitute is less likely to get a disease than the guy who has unprotected sex with a regular girl.