"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Are first date hookups usually one night stands?

SoSerene

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I'm not quite sure how to phrase what I'm asking, but I've noticed a wide variety of behaviour from women after we've had sex on the first date. After a first date hookup, sometimes they have 0 interest in meeting up again, others they want to hookup/go out again, others want to actually start dating. It's a bit confusing to me.

Sometimes I thought things went well in the bedroom and they never want to meet up again. Other times I've done very poorly that night maybe due to alcohol, inexperience, being rusty etc. but they said "don't worry about!" and were eager to go out another time.

I guess the probability of a second date is based on how the sex was, their interest level, and their original intent? Some girls are horny and wanted to fvck the nearest guy they find reasonably attractive, and if you're at the right place at the right time then boom it's on. And maybe other women aren't just looking for random fvcks, so they're more willing to invest in a man even if he wasn't spectacular the first night?

It's a wide spectrum but I'd appreciate if guys had any insight and experiences of the "post-game" sex report if you will, on how often the girl wants to meet up again etc. I feel like there is so much effort in getting the ONS in the first place but not much discussed about potentially meeting up another time. Or are most guys just looking to hit it once and never call again?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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bigneil

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Sadly, in today's "hang out, hook up" culture, a man needs to try to have sex with the woman as fast as possible, or someone else will.

I had a second date a few months ago and she got naked and we had oral sex and were just about to have sex when she said we should wait and I was dumb enough to listen. The relationship slowly faded from that point over the next few dates.

I won't date any girl I never want to see again.
 

JohnChops

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Sadly, in today's "hang out, hook up" culture, a man needs to try to have sex with the woman as fast as possible, or someone else will.

I had a second date a few months ago and she got naked and we had oral sex and were just about to have sex when she said we should wait and I was dumb enough to listen. The relationship slowly faded from that point over the next few dates.

I won't date any girl I never want to see again.
why would you listen to her anyway? She was naked and wanted to fvck.
 

bigneil

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Because I had another girlfriend at the time.

I already admitted it was a mistake, what is your point?
 

2Rocky

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Well you don't know what her mental state was going into that ONS. Could be she was looking for some validation that she is f-able. Could be she just wanted to get off. My experience with First Date Lays is that there is more relationship consideration 1) if there is more communication prior to the date 2) The date lasts longer 3) There is an emotional connection through common experiences and opinions during the date.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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