Are bad boys really bad?

[JdelaSilviera]

Or perhaps women need to be treated that way? More or less like in the military, if you want people to behave in a professional way, without making trouble with your decisions, or getting into stupid fights that you see in every day work, you have to be tough.
I´ve come to realize that even when they tell you laughing "oh please don´t treat me badly",they are simply loving it. If you start treating them in a nice way, they will lose all the respect.

I´ve noticed really nice feedbacks, when I blatantly offend them, specially with super hot girls, being arrogant, making fun of her nails, hair, or even calling them sluts. Of course the way you say it, counts a lot, the ideal is to be half serious, half funny, but you can never be shy, or they´ll notice it and they will neg you back. If you neg them like a man they usually are submissive and shut up. Just like you shut up when a guy who´s more alpha, makes fun of you.

There are also other stuff that can drive them crazy, like NOT staring (this works with girls you see/ work with every day, not answering phone calls, messages, always walk first when you two meet etc...

They will do anything to win you over if you do this, and that´s when you become a prize to win. If you put jealousy from other women even better, if you don´t date other women simply lie.... but in a way you are not bragging, and make them feel that you didn´t even want to tell them about other girls...

This is basically what´s been working for me, I really would like to be the old nice guy, but these women of "sex and the city", need to be treated like mental cases, and many times without respect. I even laugh when women try to offend me now, cause their opinions count so little to me...

I know that the average girl is simply not good enough, and Don Juanism, is a path to find the best girl you can, taks that would be impossible with the average 5 girlfriends (or less) the AFC´s have during lifetime.

 

[jafyk]

Please read the book of Pook it answers this question. jerks and nice guys are different sides of the same coin. The jerk offers excitement for now and the nice guy stability in the future. That is why a lot of women play around with the bad boys and settle with the nice guys. Even when they are with the nice they might cheat on him with a bad boy. The trick is to merge the jerk and nice guy to form the great guy.

 

[Jariel]

It's quite an interesting question because what I notice about a lot of "bad boys" and gangsta types are that they are some of the biggest cowards you can meet. They act bad when they're in a gang and feel protected, but alone they're vulnerable and weak. They fight using knives, guns or get their "homies" involved, because they're too weak to stand up to someone man to man. They prey on the weak, mistreat women, because they can't take on anyone bigger or badder.

What I'ven noticed is that self-confident, decent quality girls sneer at guys like this and are certainly not attracted to them. In fact, many girls that end up with bad boys are initially attracted to them because they were nice to them, showed them a more charming side that made them feel special. That's an aspect of jerk mentality a lot of guys overlook.

A lot of girls would say I'm a jerk. I'm not really, but I just led them on, lost interest and moved onto another girl. But because I charmed them, built up their hopes and then hurt them (unintentionally) they think I'm a jerk.

 

[mahoney]

i think the jerk/niceguy thing is actually positioned kind of wrong

the problem with the niceguy is that the niceguy actually tends not to be that nice, puts on a pedastal, makes everything too serious way too soon, isn't really that much fun, doesn't really give any space - and gives this impression of kind of wanting to get to 'safe ground' with the girl as soon as possible

the jerks also, tend not to be jerks at all, but they're a bit less pressured, without the overserious intense demeanour, there's a lot more space for the girl to actually decide whether she likes him or not

to turn around the above posters statement about jerks-for-now, niceguys-for-later - its not actually the girls that decide this! its the dudes themselves, with the way they act! the "niceguy" has already kind of decided he really wants the girl, has put her on pedastal etc - before he even knows her. he sort of already wants "for later", this weird inference of seriousness already, with someone he doesnt even know properly. and likewise its the jerk that gives off an attitude of "lets just think about now" and isn't giving any thought to some imagined future with someone he doesnt know

the niceguy has it all planned out before he even knows the girl, its all mapped out, with the jerk its more lets just have fun and it'll go wherever it goes

 

[FortunateSon]

You don't need to be mean to keep a woman, you just need to let her know that you won't accept her disrespectful behaviour.

If you let a woman know that you have no problems walking away from her if she treats you badly then life with her is much easier.

My close friend has disrespected me in the past and I have deliberately started an argument with her, gone to bed, a rose the next morning with a missed call or a text as though nothing had taken place.

This whole nice guy/bad guy thing is stupid. You don't need to be either, you just need to have a backbone.

 

[zekko]

In fact, many girls that end up with bad boys are initially attracted to them because they were nice to them, showed them a more charming side that made them feel special. That's an aspect of jerk mentality a lot of guys overlook.

That's a good point actually, I remember seeing this a lot when I was younger. The guy would be a jerk, you knew he was a jerk, but he would be so nice and charming to the girl, and you would think who the hell does he think he's fooling, but she would eat it up. She didn't know this guy from anywhere else, just that he was being so sweet to her. And maybe he was being sincere, and maybe he was just playing her, who knows?

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Women like to think, they changed the guy...

 

[vatoloco]

"I'm not bad! I'm just drawn that way."

Whenever I'm in the car with my GF and I'm concentrating on driving (traffic in this city is fucking nuts!), she looks at me and says "Ooh, baaad!" in a playful voice. Apparently, I make a slightly angry face when I'm concentrating on avoiding all these morons on the road.

You wanna project the image of a bad boy, without actually being a douchebag asshole. IOW, a Good Guy!

 

[mahoney]

Women like to think, they changed the guy...

while this is undoubtedly a factor there's also another issue which is kind of similar to this

some of these niceguy types, they sort of already decided they want the girl, theyve put her on a pedestal, they want something serious, they think the world of her etc etc etc (without even knowing her), the girl is supposed to just say yes and 'fit in' to this world the dude has already made for her....and then what?

with the "jerk" there is none of that, its all kind of open ended, more interesting, any kind of journey hasn't already been planned out by the dude. so its like, yes, they do want to change the guy to an extent, but its also a feeling that whatever happens they have some kind of input into, any relationship that occurs is more equal instead of just being prepared for them to slot into