"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Are American/Canadian women that bad?

Yo'Mama

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I'm always hearing that the dating/pick up scene in the US and Canada sucks. I haven't got personal experience of this but recently have been watching a lot of Keys to the VIP episodes.

The format is simple. Each week two contestants have to do live pick up in a club and are judged by a panel of 'experts'.

Anyway, it seems from watching this show that many of the women (although by no means all) are attractive, approachable and quite often charming.

Obviously it would be naive to assume that what we see on the show is representative of real life but it piqued my interest nonetheless.

So American and Canadian DJs - is it really that bad?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Hehe, America extends far beyond it's borders. Russia for example is America, although not 100%. I think what you talking about here is called eat, fack, self defense. People act based on their self defense. Ever seen a girl dressed in a profile of a slvt walk down street and look away? Self defense. Majority of people act based on their self defense, and besides acting based on self defense they eat and they fack, thus eat, fack, self defense - that's 100% America.


I've been getting some real Russia here, women that act natural, and that's real hot.
 

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That Keys to the VIP show is fake and scripted, like all "reality" TV. I wouldn't draw any kind of conclusion from it.
 

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Its worse than it's on TV, especially now. I used to live in Europe before and can tell it is this bad over here. Having talked to some older guys, I concluded it was not all the time like that. Early 2000s was probably the end of it, buy even than a decent guy could go to a club and get laid no problem.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Alex DeLarge

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If you want to get married some day, don't even bother with American women. You'll wind up losing your house, kids, and sanity.. And you'll continue to lose a good percentage of your paycheck for a while after that too.

Your ex wife will probably tell your kids how much you hate them and that the whole reason for the divorce is you (while she's popping pills, slugging back the booze, or sleeping all around town). Your kids will hate going to the sh1tty little apartment you can barely afford.

And guess what guys.. Little Jimmy and Timmy are gonna grow up RESPECTING WOMEN so that they don't do WHAT THEIR FATHER DID WRONG.

This is a sad generation for the American family.
 

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Most, yes.

I've been seeing a Cuban recently. Such a fvcking breath of fresh air. It's like dating a girl in the 50's.
 

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Ill put it this way, the guys on this board who do well with woman will say it aint too shabby in North America.

While the dudes who do poorly with women will cry about how crappy it is. And that is a vast majority of this board because dudes who do well dont seem to stick around for long from older posts I read. They seem to come in small spots here and there.

I do have to say I am glad my friend group doesnt harbor the general pessimism towards dating that you can sense and feel from being on this site. It can be quite a downer instead of an upper.

I think everyone can find a niche in this country somewhere. It aint all that hard.
 

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Jaylan, you need to get out more, go visit other countries and you will get it real quick. It's not all just about the women, it's about many other aspects that foreign folks have better than here (some are worse). Or better yet, actually go live in another country for awhile. I am telling you this as a foreigner based on my Vancouver experience. I can also state that grass in the USA is greener, and a lot greener! The other thing is that I find that local men generally have low standards and are content with psycho b!tches who are average looking at best as long as they get some steady pusssy. That's what West Coast of Canada looks like, the situation elsewhere in this country is probably different.
 

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Jaylan makes it his mission in life to seek out all threads discussing North American women and about the foreign option. He then proceeds to pull down his pants and create the most disgusting turd known to mankind

We get it, Jaylan, you are an internet poser who is desperate to prove your so good with american women and don't need to go foreign. Everyone else complains about how superficial these women are yet you have such an easy time with them, right? It looks good on your part and makes you feel warm and soft on the inside. Everyone that gets a foreign woman is a loser, right? Stop being a jerkoff. Stop with the macho act.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Stop wasting time replying to jaylan, a quick check or her post record will make you realise he is either a troll, a poser or a woman.
Any thread (s)he post the result is always the same,just ignore her as you would with a little girl asking your cigar.
 

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TIC said:
Jaylan makes it his mission in life to seek out all threads discussing North American women and about the foreign option. He then proceeds to pull down his pants and create the most disgusting turd known to mankind

Seek out? Its on the first page of threads, and a lot of threads lately seem to cry about American women so I am giving my assessment. So take a chill pill brah


We get it, Jaylan, you are an internet poser who is desperate to prove your so good with american women and don't need to go foreign.

Lol. Dude someone made a thread, and I gave him my viewpoint. Noone is trying to make this thread about going foreign. Theres another thread for that so please dont try and sway the topic just because you seek to take a dig at me.

Everyone else complains about how superficial these women are yet you have such an easy time with them, right? It looks good on your part and makes you feel warm and soft on the inside. Everyone that gets a foreign woman is a loser, right? Stop being a jerkoff. Stop with the macho act.

Everyone who complains here tend to be in the majority of this forum that constantly complain and bicker about how crappy women are in the states. And come off very bitter too. I thought the purpose of this forum was being positive as a man and a DJ. Not constantly bitxhing about stuff, so how about you stop being a jerk off.

If you wanna argue about the foreign topic take it to the other thread and quit trolling me in this one.
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Strelok said:
Stop wasting time replying to jaylan, a quick check or her post record will make you realise he is either a troll, a poser or a woman.
Any thread (s)he post the result is always the same,just ignore her as you would with a little girl asking your cigar.
Yeah I actually have a mind of my own and dont succumb to the bitter group think of this board. As I said previously, the men who end up doing well with girls dont stay here long and what we usually have left are the dudes who swear how horrible the dating game is.

Its true when you look at the posters whove been here for years and years and they pop in here or there and you see the content of their posts are more positive than the guys who have thousands of posts. Basically it seems that when things get better in dating dudes comes here less.

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I believe Jaylan said in another post that he is in school.

As far as picking up women goes, it's a different reality being a university student vs. being in the working world.
While true, when I do go to visit NYC(where I grew up) I usually hit up Williamsburg, which is in the boro of Brooklyn. Its yuppie, buppie, indie rock, hipster, a;alternative-ville. I seem to get way more attention from girls when im back in the city than I do up at my suburban school. But I still do just fine at school none the less.

Its a confidence thing and a self fulfilling prophecy. When you carry a swag and a "I know im the shiz" attitude, thing seem to fall in to place. At least they have for me. I guess I would rather focus on the positive and be optimistic of the future than constantly bitxh about the women around me. Because hell, aint like I am going anywhere anytime soon, so I have to rock with what I got.
 
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