are all women the same?

[spang]

i understand how women are, the solipsism thing, their irrationality, how they fall for bad men, etc.
me and my cousin had a discussion the other night. he is married to a decent girl, she seems cool, doesnt give him any crap and they seem to have a good relationship. i told him about all of the things ive learned about women, their submissive nature, men have to be dominant, that you cant have a logical conversation with a woman, etc., but he disagrees with me on it. he operates on the belief that there are women who are superficial and there are women who are not...that not all women will respond to dominant behavior.
now there is nothing i would want more than to meet a "cool" girl, but ive never met one. i would like someone i can talk to about mutual interests and still bang of course. not a superficial bs relationship or someone i have to emotionally smack around to keep them in line everyday.
so do cool girls exist? are there women out there who are not like the rest? or is it like finding a needle in a haystack? or am i chasing something that isnt real?

i actually met a girl who seems really cool yesterday. best one ive met in a while. we have common interests and she doesnt seem like a superficial moron at all. i actually had a logical conversation with her, and she didnt reject or ignore me. i didnt have to pull out any pua bs. its almost too good to be true. of course i dont know everything about her yet.

 

[Poonani Maker]

i actually met a girl who seems really cool yesterday. best one ive met in a while. we have common interests and she doesnt seem like a superficial moron at all. i actually had a logical conversation with her, and she didnt reject or ignore me. i didnt have to pull out any pua bs. its almost too good to be true. of course i dont know everything about her yet.

Until you bang her, you're just twisting in the wind. Bang her.

 

[Solomon]

In this thread op talks too a girl for the first time!

 

[Desdinova]

he operates on the belief that there are women who are superficial and there are women who are not...that not all women will respond to dominant behavior.

ALL women respond to it. It's in their nature. To say they don't is like telling you that a sexy, physically attractive woman will NOT catch your attention. Of course she'll catch your attention because it's in your nature.

now there is nothing i would want more than to meet a "cool" girl, but ive never met one. i would like someone i can talk to about mutual interests and still bang of course.

You don't have to be an a55hole to be dominant. You just need to learn and integrate what kind of actions will push the same buttons that the jerk pushes. You don't have to treat her like garbage, but you DO have to be confident and masculine.

Just as a side note, there are some women who respond much better to men who treat them like garbage.

 

[Zippapants]

I think one of my friends best described women by comparing them to the Terminators from the movies - sure there are many makes and models out there, but inside they're all just machines.

 

[nismo-4]

Women are just like pokemon. You need balls to catch 'em!

 

[DonJuanabe]

Yep, dominant doesn't mean a**hole. It means you lead. You come up with ideas of what to do don't leave that open to her. You initiate physical affection. You are strong when the sh*t hits the fan, whether it's her being emotional or a situation being dangerous.

 

[st_99]

I think the question the OP is asking is misguided in the following sense..

Of course there are cool girls, smart girls, dumb girls, gold diggers, nurturing, girly girls, tom boys, nerds, sci fi girls, etc....

but that doesn't have anything to do with relationships and sexuality. You should always seperate the two.

So if you want to date a 'smart nice girl' you STILL need to play the part of DJ when it comes to matters of the heart, sex, and relationships. You cant throw all that away just because this girls cool or smart and doesn't seem like the bimbo type.

Then you can enjoy her good cool side AND actually have a relationship.

You can't say, "oh me and this girl have a lot in common, we both like video games and she isnt all stuck up like the other dumb b!tches, so i'm going to toss this DJ sh!t out, don't need it with her." Wrong, you still do because sex and relationships is sex and relationships and liking video games and being cool is liking video games and being cool.

Does that make sense?

 

[floydb25]

Your cousin is right. There ARE girls who don't fit the bitter mold, but they usually don't stand out. And so, we usually don't notice them or care. Most men want hot, exciting, and crazy, so that's what they get.

If you look at these threads - you'll see everyone who is complaining is chasing after the same kind of woman. The same people who complain when a girl is too nice and attached. The same problem women have with men. They're all complaining about each other, and trying to fit the ideal to attract the wrong types. Round and round it goes.

There's always a common denominator, though, and that's YOU. So yea, these girls like bad boys, but you're the one going after this kind of girl, amirite? There you go.

Being a pretty boy, playing games, and all these things does work, but on a certain kind of woman. The same woman that people are attracted to, and trying to attract - by becoming / doing these things. It works on them, and they dish it right back / live that lifestyle. Hence, why they match for however the long the craziness lasts.

This is why I highly advise developing yourself, but not becoming a player / fake / ******* / douche bag / jerkoff / loser. Don't get too caught up in the "game". Otherwise you're just going to keep attracting hoes.

There are quality girls out there. I'd wager that they outweigh the good ones. You just don't notice them, and aren't attracted to them. They're not loud, confident, aggressive, attention *****y, assertive, slutty, hot, wild, etc etc. They're just plain. Nice. Decent. Down to earth. Caring. Etc. Etc. But, like women do with men, we chase after the former, and complain when they're not the latter. Ex: "Why is this ***** such a *****? Oh, but that girl already likes me, and is too nice... So yea, back to the *****..." :trouble:

Generally, if someone is complaining about how all men / women are the same, asking where all the good ones are, and blah blah - they're usually seeking after the wrong types. There are people in happy relationships out there - where none of this crap applies.

Gotta look at your own choices, my friend.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

They're all the same if you keep going after the same ones.....

 

[spang]

Your cousin is right. There ARE girls who don't fit the bitter mold, but they usually don't stand out. And so, we usually don't notice them or care. Most men want hot, exciting, and crazy, so that's what they get.

If you look at these threads - you'll see everyone who is complaining is chasing after the same kind of woman. The same people who complain when a girl is too nice and attached. The same problem women have with men. They're all complaining about each other, and trying to fit the ideal to attract the wrong types. Round and round it goes.

There's always a common denominator, though, and that's YOU. So yea, these girls like bad boys, but you're the one going after this kind of girl, amirite? There you go.

Being a pretty boy, playing games, and all these things does work, but on a certain kind of woman. The same woman that people are attracted to, and trying to attract - by becoming / doing these things. It works on them, and they dish it right back / live that lifestyle. Hence, why they match for however the long the craziness lasts.

This is why I highly advise developing yourself, but not becoming a player / fake / ******* / douche bag / jerkoff / loser. Don't get too caught up in the "game". Otherwise you're just going to keep attracting hoes.

There are quality girls out there. I'd wager that they outweigh the good ones. You just don't notice them, and aren't attracted to them. They're not loud, confident, aggressive, attention *****y, assertive, slutty, hot, wild, etc etc. They're just plain. Nice. Decent. Down to earth. Caring. Etc. Etc. But, like women do with men, we chase after the former, and complain when they're not the latter. Ex: "Why is this ***** such a *****? Oh, but that girl already likes me, and is too nice... So yea, back to the *****..." :trouble:

Generally, if someone is complaining about how all men / women are the same, asking where all the good ones are, and blah blah - they're usually seeking after the wrong types. There are people in happy relationships out there - where none of this crap applies.

Gotta look at your own choices, my friend.

ok...so im talking to the wrong ones. i have a question about quality women...like where are they? ive talked to all kinds of women at work, at school, at church, of different ages and its all the same game. however once in a blue moon i wll meet one who is different, not superficial not stupid not a gold digger not a biatch, a woman who seems like she is worth something. then i get rejected by her just like the other superficial biatches...or i find out shes got a dovchebag bf.
the girl im talking to now seems different. shes polite, has the same interests as me, shes beautiful....its too good to be true. i just know the same crap is gonna happen. im gonna ask her out, then im gonna get shot down...."oh youre nice but, i think we should be friends."
i know i sound like an AFC here, but im reading the dj bible, im getting out there, im talking to women, and im trying to change. but it still doesnt work for me. whatever its my fault i guess.

 

[Greasy Pig]

If a woman is into you, it won't be too hard to get her to agree to a date.
The key about a lot of the "game" is to build attraction to a point where she does like you enough to want to see you.

You say this girl is polite and nice but even these girls respond to good game just as they respond to bad or no game.

A big mistake a lot of guys make is to assume that because a girl is nice, she'll only respond to nice gestures (in other words, beta provisioning behaviour).
WRONG.

You may have to tweak your game a bit with these girls but you still need to stick to the basics.

So with this girl, be confident, don't neg her too hard (definitely neg her though) and use the basics to build attraction.
When she's laughing again at one of your outstanding witty remarks, just say: "Well, it's been great but I've gotta go. Let's continue this another time. How about Wednesday night at Joe's Bar? But you're going to have to think of some stuff to make me laugh. (with a twinkle in your eye and a cheeky grin)".

Build attraction and momentum enough to make it virtually impossible for her to say no.
And remember, don't pedestalise her just because she seems like a "nice girl".
You'll fall into the old traps and she'll lose interest.