"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Are all women manipulative?

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I thought i had a good relationship about 2 years ago and i ended up just being in a manipulative relationship with a low quality women. I have got to know a dozen of women since then and they always try to manipulative me? Is there something im doing wrong? Im 22 years old and good looking guy and want to know is this what women are like?. Any advice would be helpful.
 
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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Jair213 said:
thats some back luck, were the hell do you go loooking for woman?
I have been set up on 2 blind dates, one girl from a bar and i got to know a couple of girls from work and school, they ALL try and manipulate me, im a nice guy but i do have a back bone, i come off as a little arrogant/cookcy but thats just how i am. I have no social circle so i do alot of cold approaches, Im a little quiet but i can converse fine. Once i get to know the girl she trys and mainplates me and play head games. at this point i dont even know what a high quality women is/ if they exist..
 

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All women are not necessarily manipulative. Rather they are all just psycho and need a real man to properly guide them. The ones that resist should be nexted.

Epi

Edit: besides the fact. Are we men not also manipulative? Just to get into their pants? I think its a two way street. Just different motives. *shrugs*
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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All humans are manipulative, some are just malicious with their manipulation. Don't take women's silly behavior seriously and treat them like you treated girls when you were seven years old and you'll be fine.
 

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First of all we are all manipulative, just accept that. Now for a solution, be aware that you have a choice. Either you play along or you don't for each instance you're "manipulated", when to do what is up to you.
 

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Life overall is an exercise in negotiations and compromises, so are men and women.

Each and everyone of us wants something out of life - and each other.

Some are better negotiators, some are worse negotiators - and many are ruthless negotiators.

Just learn which woman are fair negotiators and find a compromise in what you and her both want out of life and each other.

This is life.

Exodus
 

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I think all people with power or social intelligence are manipulative. Not just women.
 

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Maybe ur not as good looking and/or great as you think you are....
And then they react one way and u think they're manipulating you.

Humble it down
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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JoeMarron said:
All humans are manipulative, some are just malicious with their manipulation. Don't take women's silly behavior seriously and treat them like you treated girls when you were seven years old and you'll be fine.
To echo on Joe, manipulation occurs with your boss, your co-work, and the people work for you. You are narrowing down your sample size to women, and believe it is them.

Just because an attribute occurred to a specific body (i.e female) of the population, it doesn't this is non-existent in your male boss.

I think the question needs to be re-framed before asked again, otherwise you are falling into confirmation bias, where you believe women are manipulative, and once an evidence pops up, you tell yourself, ahh, I knew it! See, I was right!
 

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Smok1nAce said:
Is there something im doing wrong?
Yes, you're putting out a trickin' vibe or you're failing the tests of excremental fortitude.

Smok1nAce said:
Any advice would be helpful.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x87m4r_american-pimp-7-of-9_shortfilms

Go to 5:52-6:22 and 6:39-7:39. Now Rex isn't telling you go out there and start beating on women, what Rex is telling you is and the message that Bishop Don Magic Juan is trying to convey is that you have to set good precedents with women early and often, because it's in there nature to try to see what they can get away with, there's trying to see if you're going to pimp or simp.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=210171

How You Start with a B*tch, Is How You End with a B*tch
 
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Yes.

It gets easier when you realise that it is not them being manipulative but rather you being manipulated.
 

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Epimanes said:
Are we men not also manipulative? Just to get into their pants? I think its a two way street. Just different motives. *shrugs*
That's irrelevant. We're not interested in men!
 

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Of course they are. They have the vagina. They know men want to sleep with them . MOST men jump through hoops to get it
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Smok1nAce said:
how can i not be manipulated?
hi mate its pretty simple really.......just don't let women manipulate you.......you obviously see the signs ........so do not tolerate it .....simple......be a man and stand up for yourself in a confident polite way..............

women who try to manipulate are weak and insecure .......they just love having guys pandering to their needs.............best not to get involved with that as its too much pain for any man to go through.........being a tampon for a manipulater is a bad way to go through life...............

keep searching for a good lady.......just forget the whvres........

one of the problems is a lot of girls your age have been totally brain washed by the media.......and all the reality tv...........to be honest I find it sick..........and a total waste of time to even watch any of that shyt when you can use that time and put it to far better use......
 

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Smok1nAce said:
I thought i had a good relationship about 2 years ago and i ended up just being in a manipulative relationship with a low quality women. I have got to know a dozen of women since then and they always try to manipulative me? Is there something im doing wrong? Im 22 years old and good looking guy and want to know is this what women are like?. Any advice would be helpful.
sir the afc is manipulative
 

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Great advice in this thread.

There's definitely different types of women out their with different needs and wants. Some use their looks to their advantage inorder to "use" people. Some of these women know no other way. Some though, value themselves and save their energy for men of worth.

Rex's post makes a good point (didn't watch the videos). 99.99% of women will give you $hit tests soon into the relationship. That's just their way. They need to know the boundaries, and what kind of man you are. If you fail these $hit tests then some women will move on, and others will keep you around to use. However, if you pass them, then some will also move on, they see you as un-usable, so they have no need for you. And others will take it as a challenge, they will go into game mode....in order to win. A lot of these women are not looking for a healthy relationship, they are not healthy themselves. They cannot recognize a good partner.

Filters. It really boils down to what YOU are looking for. As women do with men, we can also do with women. Compartmentalize, categorize. I have women that I've known for a long time. I hear from them every once in a while, and vice versa. Am I banging my head on the wall, trying to get them all into bed? No, that would not be good for me. However, I can keep them at arms length, test the waters every now and then. Have they come around? Matured in some aspect? Changed their ways? Are they looking for something different than they were?

Emotional detachment. You will need to recognize when to the cut the rip chord, and when to invest your time and energy. Opportunity cost. Is this woman worth it? Can my time be better spent elsewhere?
 

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what kind of head games are we talking about?

in what way are you being manipulated, OP?
 
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