Approaching is easy; keeping interest is another story

[Tempest]

Yeah, approaching is VERY easy in that environment. Try stopping people on the street and engaging them in a conversation - much more difficult.

So far, I've noticed you're showing too much interest. The conversation is BORING... have you ever been in a conversation with someone that you didn't want to be in? Exactly... that's how most girls feel. You're TRYING for rapport. There are 3 types of rapport: breaking rapport, neutral rapport, trying for rapport. Check out Tyler Durden's archive or (realsocialdynamics.com) to learn more about that. I'm not going to explain it here. If she asks for your name say "brad pitt". That's my standard line whenever they ask... and they always respond well. Sometimes they say "i'm angelina jolie" and I say "omg you ruined my marriage" and push them gently.

Begin storytelling, teasing, C+F and keep it playful. Learn to vibe with girls. Learn to DHV (demonstrate higher value). Girls won't be attracted to you unless you have perceived higher value. Find a structure, and stick to it (mysterymethod.com).

If you want to get good, you're in the wrong place. Go to ASF or learn from people with 1000+ approaches under their belt and consistently get results.

Hope this helps.

 

[cant think of a user name]

You are asking too many questions, being a bit too "eager" in the conversation.

People normally don't like to be interrogated.

The best way is to ask some open ended questions, LISTEN, OBSERVE, and turn the topic into something humourous that you can both laugh at. It helps if you are BOTH comfortable also.

EDIT: oh yeah, and SMILE while you are talking about something good, but dont overdo it

 

[iCY]

ask open ended questions that are vague but specific enough that she cannot answer with a simple yes or a no. women love to talk about themselves or something they are interested in. find out what she likes(either by what she wears or ask a friend) and talk to her about that. ask her for advice on something that women would know alot about(fashion,food,etc..)

"how was your day" or "how is it going" usually wont lead you anywhere, when was the last time YOU answered that question with something more then "its goin good"
try commenting on something that she is wearing, or something in your surroundings and branch off that by asking questions and for her opinion.

 

[Viper]

Well guys, good news, Finals week isn't until NEXT week and I have 3 more days to get numbers.

You are asking too many questions, being a bit too "eager" in the conversation.

People normally don't like to be interrogated.

The best way is to ask some open ended questions, LISTEN, OBSERVE, and turn the topic into something humourous that you can both laugh at. It helps if you are BOTH comfortable also.

So ask fewer questions, but ask more open ended questions, qaulity over qauntity? I'll try that and see if it works tommorow. So would asking her something like "What are you doing over summer?" or "So, what did you over the weekend?" work to get a conversation started? If so, this 'open-ended' questions thing really isn't as hard as I thought.

"how was your day" or "how is it going" usually wont lead you anywhere, when was the last time YOU answered that question with something more then "its goin good"
try commenting on something that she is wearing, or something in your surroundings and branch off that by asking questions and for her opinion.

Hmm... now that you think about it, you have a point. However, I'm not getting this comment on something she's wearing thing, should I comment on the brand or should I tell her that it looks nice? Examples of "commenting" on clothes would be nice.

Something else I've noticed that seems to be keeping me from getting the ladies, my voice. I've been told alot of times that people can't hear me because I don't speak loud enough or sometimes its hard to understand what I'm saying. Often, my voice has been labeled as "Silly" "Goofy" "Inaudible" "Slow" and it's definitely affecting my success with women.

Also, I'd like to know this, when is a good time to ask a girl for her phone number? Should just go up to a random girl, have a nice conversation and then number close? Or should I talk to this girl for a few days, get to know her a little and get her phone number? These things seem simple to a Don Juan, but to an AFC like me, it's like solving an ancient mystery.

 

[mike88nbd]

Originally posted by Tempest If you want to get good, you're in the wrong place. Go to ASF or learn from people with 1000+ approaches under their belt and consistently get results. [/B]

What's ASF? And where would you go to learn from real-experienced people like you mentioned?

 

[Viper]

Originally posted by mike88nbd
What's ASF? And where would you go to learn from real-experienced people like you mentioned?

I'd appreciate if we stayed on topic here.
I mean, I'm alright with you asking what ASF, but I'd really like a reply to my previous post.

 

[mike88nbd]

Originally posted by Viper
I'd appreciate if we stayed on topic here.
I mean, I'm alright with you asking what ASF, but I'd really like a reply to my previous post.

No problem man, but honestly Ive just been watching this thread cause Im in the same situation as you when it comes to convos with girls so I dont really got anything to say that will help you out.