"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Approaching Girls at Gym

jrodbendi

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So where I work out, I often see girls come in and step onto one of the treadmills or eliptical striders (many with headphones). How do I open and attract these girls, who are usually occupied by both their cardio and music?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ChrizZ

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jrodbendi said:
So where I work out, I often see girls come in and step onto one of the treadmills or eliptical striders (many with headphones). How do I open and attract these girls, who are usually occupied by both their cardio and music?
I tried that once. Read my FR Journal (sig). Learn from that.
 

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Hard to talk to people stuffed in headphones. I used to go to a really busy gym and always made small talk with people when in line for a treadmill or water fountain, also around the track on ocassion. Never tried to snag a number from a girl I didn't know, though. Who carries their phone around with them at a gym?

Unless you're on the way in/out...
 

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Wait until they arent on the machine or listening to music for starters.
 

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i once waited for a girl to get off a treadmil,( i was lifting weights) an old student teacher of mine..

it all backed fired when she told me she knew lots about me cuz shes dating my woods teacher.. i walked away im like "****ing **** block"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It sucks meeting women at gym

I'm fed up trying to pickup women at the gym. The last time I did an effort was 2 weeks ago and since that failure I seem to have lost interest in approaching women in general. Hmm. May be this incidence is not the cause in itself but the fact that I've only had 0% success with women in my life. Anyway, coming to the gym thing, I noticed an attractive woman running on the treadmill next to mine. She seemed to be a pro, for she was running for more than 30 mintues straight. I looked at her a few times to meet her eye (I have on one previous occassion talked to a stranger woman while we both were running. Sure it felt like a crazy thing and she never showed interest in me ) but she was perfectly focussed on running. I was done running and I thought when she comes off the treadmill I would say to her "You must have been a horse in your previous birth". But when she did alight from the mill she went straight to the coach and was learning some kicks from him. I was hanging around near her doing some exercises, waiting for an opportunity to pitch in when she is somewhat free. She never was idle. Once she walked by me and I didn't feel like stopping her. Later I found her doing some exercise rotating her shoulders. I did not want to wait anymore so I walked upto her. I could not use the "horse" opener because it had been several minutes after she came off the treadmill. So I said "You are preparing to beat up somebody?". The loud music in the gym meant I had to talk loud enough and I didn't like the tone of my own voice - it felt like I was crying for attention. She seemed to have missed so she asked "Sorry?" but her eyes conveyed that it was not supposed of me to approach her that way. I repeated what I said and she said "No" and her eyes had the same expression like I'm a beggar or something. I felt lame then I said "Seems like that" and moved away. I had expected her to ask "No, why do you ask?" or something friendlier.
 

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Gyms are bad, enclosed space, you know the regulars and staff, so if it goes wrong which it often will do with women since they are prized like goddesses, then your rep can go down pretty bad. Risky.

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I don't like trying to game on girls in gyms. It's just so highkey, most of the time (at least the YMCA) the entire room is quiet with the constant grunts from men working out and the odd people having a conversation that everyone can hear. Though in a basketball gym it's a much more game friendly environment. These two girls were playing basketball with each other, and I approached them saying "Are you guys practicing to try and ball me up?" conversation went off from there. Though make sure they're only there to mess around, one time I did this to a girl who was really practicing hard and seemed to be on her school's varsity team, and she was like "Look, I'm trying to practice here, I don't want to be bothered."
 

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jrodbendi said:
So where I work out, I often see girls come in and step onto one of the treadmills or eliptical striders (many with headphones). How do I open and attract these girls, who are usually occupied by both their cardio and music?
Something ****y and witty, turn what seems to be a problem, into an advantage and an opportunity to show your personality.

Eg.

Me: Do those work? (Point to earphones)

She takes them off.

Her: Sorry?
Me: Do those work?
Her: Does what work?
Me: The earphones, because every time I'm at the gym there's always some girl who tries to chat me up when I'm doing my routine, it's distracting. Maybe I should try wearing some.

Do it right, with the fun, half teasing tonality and should be more than enough to get you started.
 

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Dating or hitting on a girl at the gym is like doing the same thing at work - almost like sh*tting where you eat. Why would you risk a good work out for a girl that could potentially be a drama queen? You'd have to avoid the gym, change gyms, deal with her stalking you, or her showing up trying to make you jealous by flirting with other guys, etc., etc. Just NOT even worth it, IMO.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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