Approaching aint hard but... I'm starting to think escalating is too much work.

[ElStud]

Approaching and talking to girls is easy for me. Damned easy. Easiest thing in the f*cking world. But I'm starting to think escalating with a girl is just too much work especially when you consider the outcome. What I mean for instance, is I walk around the college campus a lot and approach random girls. Now on paper "heavier" escalation sounds easy, but not in real life. Infact I'll run into situations where it'd damn hard to escalate.

Then on top of that, you've got girls who just won't let you escalate, like you'll try simple escalation and they'll reject. Then there are just those girls who'll be interested then go "blah blah blah i have to get going". And overall I'm starting to think escalating to a kiss is TOO MUCH work. I've heard assuming the escalation will work, works, but even then they'll sometimes reject. And overall it aint worth all that BS just to get a kiss.

 

[jdon23]

Elstud listen you are over-analyzing everything.


All you have to do is... relax. Engage in fun conversation. Feel how the conversation goes, and her body language. That's how you'll judge how to escalate.

Think about how a doctor operates. Do you think he knows EXACTLY how a procedure will go? No he doesn't. If he finds something in his way, he takes care of it *WHEN IT HAPPENS*. If complications arise, he works around them.

Its the same thing with DJing. Just have fun when you're doing it. As long as you do that, i guarantee you will have success.

 

[TheBaconator]

Approaching and talking to girls is easy for me. Damned easy. Easiest thing in the f*cking world. But I'm starting to think escalating with a girl is just too much work especially when you consider the outcome. What I mean for instance, is I walk around the college campus a lot and approach random girls. Now on paper "heavier" escalation sounds easy, but not in real life. Infact I'll run into situations where it'd damn hard to escalate.

Then on top of that, you've got girls who just won't let you escalate, like you'll try simple escalation and they'll reject. Then there are just those girls who'll be interested then go "blah blah blah i have to get going". And overall I'm starting to think escalating to a kiss is TOO MUCH work. I've heard assuming the escalation will work, works, but even then they'll sometimes reject. And overall it aint worth all that BS just to get a kiss.

So sticking to the alternative of good ol Rosey Palms I see. :crackup:

 

[hanson]

if how you act on the internet is any indication on how you are in real life, i see exactly why you aren't going anywhere.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Sooo..is this your coming out party?

 

[Aragon034]

I could say some inspirational quote like "Rome wasn't built in a day" or some other thing telling you to be patient and that you'll enjoy your hard work.

But It's so much funner to point and laugh at your pathetic self. I want you to tell me why i should give a damn about you if you aren't willing to do anything about it yourself?

And you know what? If you hadn't spent so much time and effort defending your view that none of us approach like you do, i wouldn't dismiss you so easily; i might even have tried to give you more advice.

But since you overanalyse and rationalize everything so you don't have to take responsibility, or have to do anything that you're uncomfortable with at the moment., you're nothing but a bad joke.

You know what i think might kick your ass? When you're chatting with a hot chick in a bar or club or whatever, and real Alpha comes by and without any visible effort, takes her off for himself. Oh but wait, you don't want the hard work of escalating with her anyways, let the other guy have the head...ache

But at the end of it all i can take some solace in the fact that every girl you fail with, is another girl for a real man.

 

[Pathgen]

And overall it aint worth all that BS just to get a kiss.

Lol so does this mean that you are giving up on women all together because if it isn't worth it you arent going to try...

Sooo..is this your coming out party?

Or he could be saying he wants to be abstenint. He could be a priest or something?

Honestly i doubt it. For straight men passing up women is almost impossible and very hard. People have been having sex for centuries. Start listening to most of the advice you are getting and it will all fall into place.

 

[young_gun]

ElStud,

TRUST ME, IT'S WORTH IT.

If you would listen to everyone who has been telling you to call all the girls you get their numbers.

Say 1/2 of the girls you call would be receptive to a date and say 1/3 of those you actually go on dates with. That's 1/6 of the girls you get numbers you go on dates with.

Now let's say you plan 10 dates with the girls you have in your phonebook. Let's say 2 of them go badly, 6 go so-so, and 2 of them go really well. If you followed up with all the girls you went on dates with, I guarantee you could get at the very least a kiss, and most likely even more than that.

That's 60 girls.

You have 8,000 field reports, not including the ones you don't even post on here because it's past your 9:30 bedtime and you're over-tired.

Yeah, that's a LOT of girls to through (I'm making a VERY conservative estimate). BUT, from the way you get numbers (or say you do) that should be no problem for you.

 

[HandyAndy]

Sooo..is this your coming out party?

LULZ

 

[ElStud]

Sex just aint that big a deal to me where I got to have it now. There are many things in my life right now that are honestly bigger deals than getting laid. Like dude honestly, sometimes I just don't think it's a big deal. You know, sometimes you just want sit back and play video games with your friends, then spending the whole day trying to approach girls and escalate.

It's like I'm using ALL this time to approach and trying to escalate with a girl. Think about this, doing all these approaches and stuff, just to do something like escalating with a girl? Doesn't seem worth it, like the outcome isn't a big deal. It's like eventually after approaching, you just lose interest in getting laid. It's like all this work, to get a kiss from a girl? I mean yeah, make outs are probably nice, but is it really worth all the work man?

Now if the outcome was something of actual value like say, a trip to Africa for a week, now that'd actually be WORTH the work of dealing with all the stuff that some women will do. I don't think this is quite worth it though.

 

[Aragon034]

LMFAO!

You know, sometimes you just want sit back and play video games with your friends, then spending the whole day trying to approach girls and escalate.

It's like I'm using ALL this time to approach and trying to escalate with a girl.

Why are you spending so much time approaching if it's not important to you? Oh that's right, You're an idiot...

Doesn't seem worth it, like the outcome isn't a big deal. It's like eventually after approaching, you just lose interest in getting laid. It's like all this work, to get a kiss from a girl? I mean yeah, make outs are probably nice, but is it really worth all the work man?

I don't know where to start on this one, Doesn't seem worth it? Fine, then why are you even here? Go play whatever video games you wanna play with your friends and talk about the latest playboy.

Lost interest in sex? How could you lose interest if you haven't even gotten laid yet? that's like me saying i'm losing interest in flying choppers when i've never done it? Are you asexual or something? More likely you're trying to rationalize your weekness so you don't feel so bad.

You aren't even interested in doing the work to get a kiss? What? can't set up a date, and follow it through till the end? Are you that lazy?

Worth the effort? Up to you, is sex something that you're willing to put effort into? Obviously not.

Now if the outcome was something of actual value like say, a trip to Africa for a week, now that'd actually be WORTH the work of dealing with all the stuff that some women will do. I don't think this is quite worth it though.

I highly doubt anybody who actually puts effort into their lives would agree with you.

Even more doubtful if they strive to be Alpha. Then again we're not as castrated as you are.

i absolutely adore when you post stuff like this, makes me all the happier and prouder of myself in that i don't let myself rationalize like this.

 

[TizZle]

Please just make a journal of your posts if your going to make a new post everyday/ every other day.

Think about what your doing during your encounters with women. identify the problem areas. correct them from material on this site. things will become second nature and you wont have to post this kind of stuff on here anymore.

 

[Dragon]

Jeez.... ElStud is getting slammed here. Guys, maybe the negative advice is not helping ElStud's situation.


ElStud. I know it sucks, we've all been there. I myself am still there. I put a lot of work into a women and get nothing. It's a waste of time. But when you're hard work starts to pay off, you feel good about it. It's a law of nature that your hard work will pay off... it HAS TO... it's a LAW that cannot be broken.

It's not always going to be this hard. You have to really focus on what your main goal is and see if THAT's worth it. Just f closing a girl is not a goal that is worth extensive time and effort. But what if your goal is to become really good with women to the point where you can seduce almost any women you desire. Then, not only does it get fulfilling and easier, but it also gets really fun. That's what we're all striving for... that fun feeling, that state of happines, and those stories to tell our grandchildren that we were DJ's back in our day and not an AFC's.

 

[Aragon034]

Jeez.... ElStud is getting slammed here. Guys, maybe the negative advice is not helping ElStud's situation.


ElStud. I know it sucks, we've all been there. I myself am still there. I put a lot of work into a women and get nothing. It's a waste of time. But when you're hard work starts to pay off, you feel good about it. It's a law of nature that your hard work will pay off... it HAS TO... it's a LAW that cannot be broken.

It's not always going to be this hard. You have to really focus on what your main goal is and see if THAT's worth it. Just f closing a girl is not a goal that is worth extensive time and effort. But what if your goal is to become really good with women to the point where you can seduce almost any women you desire. Then, not only does it get fulfilling and easier, but it also gets really fun. That's what we're all striving for... that fun feeling, that state of happines, and those stories to tell our grandchildren that we were DJ's back in our day and not an AFC's.

Great mindset. This is what the newer guys to the game should be thinking IMO.

 

[MikeYikes122]

Sex just aint that big a deal to me where I got to have it now. There are many things in my life right now that are honestly bigger deals than getting laid. Like dude honestly, sometimes I just don't think it's a big deal. You know, sometimes you just want sit back and play video games with your friends, then spending the whole day trying to approach girls and escalate.

It's like I'm using ALL this time to approach and trying to escalate with a girl. Think about this, doing all these approaches and stuff, just to do something like escalating with a girl? Doesn't seem worth it, like the outcome isn't a big deal. It's like eventually after approaching, you just lose interest in getting laid. It's like all this work, to get a kiss from a girl? I mean yeah, make outs are probably nice, but is it really worth all the work man?

Now if the outcome was something of actual value like say, a trip to Africa for a week, now that'd actually be WORTH the work of dealing with all the stuff that some women will do. I don't think this is quite worth it though.

This is called Virgin Justification.

ElStud, I told you exactly what your problem was and why this is whole thing is so hard for you in a different thread:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1473782#post1473782

 

[nicelife]

**** Man Just Go To A Party Its Easy As **** To Escalate On Drunk Girls

Your Black, They'll Think You Got A Big One

Nice.

 

[jdon23]

Sex just aint that big a deal to me where I got to have it now. There are many things in my life right now that are honestly bigger deals than getting laid. Like dude honestly, sometimes I just don't think it's a big deal. You know, sometimes you just want sit back and play video games with your friends, then spending the whole day trying to approach girls and escalate.

It's like I'm using ALL this time to approach and trying to escalate with a girl. Think about this, doing all these approaches and stuff, just to do something like escalating with a girl? Doesn't seem worth it, like the outcome isn't a big deal. It's like eventually after approaching, you just lose interest in getting laid. It's like all this work, to get a kiss from a girl? I mean yeah, make outs are probably nice, but is it really worth all the work man?

Now if the outcome was something of actual value like say, a trip to Africa for a week, now that'd actually be WORTH the work of dealing with all the stuff that some women will do. I don't think this is quite worth it though.

STOP WITH THE FVCKING EXCUSES!!!! IF I EVER SAW U IN REAL LIFE I WOULD PUNCH YOU VERY VERY HARD. :box:

EVERYTHING in life that is "worth" anything, takes HARD WORK. Nothing is free. If your not willing to sacrifice your own pride by getting rejected, then you are just going to be a scared pvssy your entire life.

 

[true romance]

Elstud,

Take a lead pipe and hit on your head..all the great advices from these guys and you still stubborn, lazy.

Listen to Mike Yikes advice..read again..do some self reflection...

You are wasting our time...

You make no progress after thousand of posts...you are hopeless...

 

[guywhoneedshelp]

You know I realize I have a lot of trouble f*** closing with some of these new girls I've been meeting but I had no trouble # closing them. Mainly because I really just don't give a f*** anymore as I'm already getting laid and would rather spend time doing other things.

But my friend has a pretty cool strategy. He calls girls at like 12:30 at night, and if they pick up, chances are they had their fun for the night and they're available to hang out and in many times, f***. I might try that, worse comes to worse you could just say you were drunk and dialed the wrong number. (if they ask why they have a missed call from you or why you are waking them up in the middle of the night)

 

[decades]

get to the core of what you are really afraid of.