"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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approaching a girl with a guy next to her

KneghtRyder

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I was at the mall, i see a girl that I thought would fit me nicely. See was just walking in the mall and returned my eye contact . There was a guy next to her, but I could tell they weren't that serious because no hand holding, and they were walking like 2 feet apart.

I thought about just going up to her and talking to her like he didn't even exist, and if he says anything, I would say just pretend like I didn't know he was dating her or her boyfriend.

On second thought, I just laid back because I thought it would only lead to bad or uncomfortable situation. Plus I didn't have the confidence ,balls to probabaly do it right. What should I have done ?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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speed dawg

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You should approach a girl without a guy with her. Why waste time with a girl who's with a guy when there are plenty without.
 

Lust

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speed dawg said:
You should approach a girl without a guy with her. Why waste time with a girl who's with a guy when there are plenty without.
Actually, don't listen to that.

You'd be suprised how hard it will be to find an all girl set.

You need to improve your confidence in approaching mixed sets. You can't always hope that there will be hotties without guys around for you to approach.

If they are truely a really hot chick, think about it... of course there will be guys around them! Are you going to let these chances go begging??

What if your dream girl was with some random tool? You going to let her escape your life just cause of that? Practice approaching mixed sets.
 

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KneghtRyder said:
I was at the mall, i see a girl that I thought would fit me nicely. See was just walking in the mall and returned my eye contact . There was a guy next to her, but I could tell they weren't that serious because no hand holding, and they were walking like 2 feet apart.

I thought about just going up to her and talking to her like he didn't even exist, and if he says anything, I would say just pretend like I didn't know he was dating her or her boyfriend.

On second thought, I just laid back because I thought it would only lead to bad or uncomfortable situation. Plus I didn't have the confidence ,balls to probabaly do it right. What should I have done ?

Just what you did: Nothing. It's really rude to walk up and start talking to a girl when you see she's with another guy. Most of the time that guy is going to be her boyfriend or husband. You'd just be asking for trouble.
 

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I personally don't try for mixed sets but have done afew in the past.
I think the key is to be friend the guy first(Askin him about his cool clothes, etc.) and then ask him how do him and the girl know each other. But this is all assuming that u don't they're together since they're not holding hands or are too too close to each other.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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i usually dont approach sets period, because i view it as more work then when i could have gotten one chick far easier.

but, i would just start talking to both of them, get to kno them both. then u will see if they are together or just friends or watever.
 

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Solution: You approach both and act friendly towards both. Never single out the girl in this situation.

This way you will get the feel how this girl relates to the guy and their relationship. If you got the feeling that those two are together or this guy will try to c0ckblock you then excuse yourself from the conversation and move on.

You never know you might run into her again when he is not around.
 

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I can offer 2 tips, both I learned studying DJ resources, but more importantly these 2 have been used AGAINST me, with great effects, and I NEVER EVEN KNEW what was going on.

First on the approach in the mall... A confident guy will not be afraid to approach them. But focus on the guy first and befriend him.

"Hey whats up I noticed you have that pair of shoes I've been looking for. Did you get it here in the mall?" Then convo from there. Befriend the guy!

Tip #1: Somewhere in the convo, make sure to introduce yourself and then ask "So how do you guys know each other?" If he says, "oh this is my GF Jeniffer" then wrap the conversation up and hey, you met 2 friends. If they aren't bf/gf then start gaming by negging the girl and making her work for attention. The guy wont know whats going on at this point UNTIL....

Tip#2: Once you have negged/ignored the girl enough, simply ask if you can talk to her alone for a few minutes. The girl will be wanting to go with you (if you gamed her right). The guy will most likely give her up and let her go.

This is a tactic that has been used on me before. It slipped under my *sigh* AFCish radar quite well. Then I lost the girl. But I learned something new!
 

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You better have a strong ass frame and be more alpha then the guy near her.. Be it her boyfriend or brother if he outshines you or makes you look like a tool then you got no hope.

I mean why not just hit on girls who are on there own. Way easier.
 

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Ah man the whole idea of approaching a lone chick with a guy with her narks me off.

You don't hit on a girl if she's with a guy.

It's about respect and manners - toward the guy.

If a guy came up to me and I was with a chick and it was obvious his intentions, before he gets a word out I'll tell him to "back off now". If he proceeds, laughs it off or trys to play alpha - it's not just his ego that's going to take a bruising. Heed that warning 'cos there are plenty of guys who would act like this should you try to pull any tricks suggested in this thread.

Have some manners for crying out loud and don't think of other people are merely pawns or obstacles - they're people so respect them as such, especially guys. How would you feel if some mong walked up to you trying to game a chick you was with (despite your relation to her)?

Even if the guy is skinny, pale, weak, dorky, cross-eyed and totally AFC and he's with a hot chick - let them be. Respect your fellow man in these situations or don't be suprised when one of them suprises you and starts swinging for you!

The Muscly Jerk
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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musclyjerk said:
Ah man the whole idea of approaching a lone chick with a guy with her narks me off.

You don't hit on a girl if she's with a guy.

It's about respect and manners - toward the guy.

If a guy came up to me and I was with a chick and it was obvious his intentions, before he gets a word out I'll tell him to "back off now". If he proceeds, laughs it off or trys to play alpha - it's not just his ego that's going to take a bruising. Heed that warning 'cos there are plenty of guys who would act like this should you try to pull any tricks suggested in this thread.

Have some manners for crying out loud and don't think of other people are merely pawns or obstacles - they're people so respect them as such, especially guys. How would you feel if some mong walked up to you trying to game a chick you was with (despite your relation to her)?

Even if the guy is skinny, pale, weak, dorky, cross-eyed and totally AFC and he's with a hot chick - let them be. Respect your fellow man in these situations or don't be suprised when one of them suprises you and starts swinging for you!

The Muscly Jerk
totally agree with that. i know i wouldn't want some guy trying to pick up my girl when im with her. just dont do that ****. its stupid.
 
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