"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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approaching a girl that's walking with a guy? + side question

nkh78h

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Would it be a bad idea to approach a girl that's walking with a guy? Of course, if the guy is her boyfriend, then you'd obviously make yourself look silly, not to mention that you might have a jealous boyfriend after you.

However, it can be hard to tell if a guy-girl pair is in a relationship, since many couples do not show PDA. For what we know, they could be just friends or siblings (especially if they're of the same race). After all, a woman is single until proven taken. :) In fact, I have friends who are merely friends with someone of the opposite gender, but they are such good friends that they could pass for a couple. Has anyone ever tried to approach a lady that's with a guy?

Also, a side question: a few times I have talked to a girl, and she would only smile and give little or no verbal response. Does this mean she's not interested, or that she's just shy?
 

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It wouldn't make a difference if they were boyfriend and girlfriend, there is no reason not to make an approach if you're interested (unless of course they're husband and wife, look out for wedding rings!).

It also depends on how you do the approach. If you approach casually like you're just asking a simple question and then lead it up to a conversation + isolate the target, then of course you've got a good shot at making something happen.

As for the girl you mentioned. It is impossible to tell whether she is interested or not from what you have just mentioned. However, if you are interested in her, you shouldn't be afraid and just show her you're interested in starting something.
 

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If you find out that the girl that you are approaching is indeed with her boyfriend what makes it right for you to go and try and hit on her?

Its wrong to try and steal another mans girlfriend. However when you see a group of people walking down the street you have no idea who or what they are and you should most CERTAINLY approach them.

In a neutral and fun manner flying in under the radar and then at some point ask them about their relationship like "You guys make a great couple" and if they deny it then its fair game to start turning the sexuality on and showing IOI toward the girl.

But if they are in a relationship, its just wrong to do that to another guy. I wouldnt do it and neither should you. Its bad karma man.
 

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harkkam08 said:
If you find out that the girl that you are approaching is indeed with her boyfriend what makes it right for you to go and try and hit on her?

Its wrong to try and steal another mans girlfriend. However when you see a group of people walking down the street you have no idea who or what they are and you should most CERTAINLY approach them.

In a neutral and fun manner flying in under the radar and then at some point ask them about their relationship like "You guys make a great couple" and if they deny it then its fair game to start turning the sexuality on and showing IOI toward the girl.

But if they are in a relationship, its just wrong to do that to another guy. I wouldnt do it and neither should you. Its bad karma man.
Karma? No such thing. I don't mean to go on a morality lecture or anything on here but... the words boyfriend and girlfriend isn't something that is meant to be forever. Marriage should be forever. Boyfriend and girlfriend is something that this feminine society has made up. The reason you would marry someone would be something along the lines of: throughout everything you are still together, and no other person's company or sex is the same. This person is the person that fits your "ideal".
 

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I'm only interested in single girls, so I wouldn't continuing hitting on her if the guy is her boyfriend.

I'll have to admit that I've been reluctant to approach girls for conversation when they are with a guy, even if it's unclear if he's her beau. There are certainly times when I've passed up on the chance only to realize that the guy was a brother or her father (the latter wouldn't have helped because I find it very awkward to approach a girl in front of her parents).

Personally, I have a way of "testing the water," though. I'll ask them something like, "Are you two siblings? You two look kinda alike!" Of course, that is only viable if they're the same race, though.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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One thing is to approach on a neutral way to test the waters, another thing is to hit on the girl once you know she´s with her boyfriend. It´s not only bad karma it´s also VERY disrespectfull to the guy, any guy tried to pull that with me he would have a day he would never forget.
 
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