Approach fat and ugly women.

[El Payaso]

I don't mean that literally.

If you see a beautiful girl with a group of other girls, don't approach her. Instead, approach the less beautiful one or the fat one. Strike interest and conversation with her and completely ignore the beautiful girl.

9 times out of 10, she will feel a massive blow to her ego and will start trying to get your attention.

 

[resilient]

Did this last Sunday night at a venue.

It was funny how responsive the less hot ones were from giving her attention in front of the hot ones. I moved around the venue a lot that night, and then I eventually circled back to the hot one(s) after they spotted me nearby getting a drink. They were annoyed that I purposely ignored them in the beginning. I chat them up for a bit, cracked a few jokes then excused myself early before everyone started leaving.

I can't remember who said it recently, but one of the tips I got from another thread was to value my time. Time is an extremely valuable commodity.

Don't overextend the welcome.

It's a sign of self-respect to leave early on a high note in set.

I think it also makes them wonder about you too in their absence.

Hamster thinking:
-"Where's he off to?"
-"Does he have someone else he's seeing?"

Maintain that ol' fashion air of mystery, don't look needy... convey value.

 

[El Payaso]

It's definitely a good in-strategy to get a foot in on a group of women, and I've pulled it off, but I have also experienced some drawbacks in doing it, which I think should be talked about here.

I've dated a lot of attractive women with less attractive friends and have seen these better looking women get excited when a man approaches the friend rather than them. They almost take on the role of "matchmaker", maybe because they're so tired of hearing the less attractive friend complain about her lack of opportunities with men compared to her attractive friend's experiences night after night after night.

The second drawback I've seen is that, later on, when you do turn your focus to the attractive one, the less attractive one gets pissed, becomes a stick in the mud, wants to go home and becomes a c0ckblocker.

I've learned over time the more attention you pay to the less attractive one early on, the more you have to isolate the better looking one later, which has a tendency of her continuously breaking your frame because she's wondering where her friend is. It's more work.

That's why, if I do this, I might open with the less attractive one, but still engage with both equally as if there is no difference between them.

Good points. The whole strategy is dependent on the level of narcissism of the more attractive girl.

 

[MillionBillionaire]

2002 wants It's PUA theories back..

 

[MillionBillionaire]

...typed the anonymous guy on his keyboard from 1,000 miles away.

Replied by the KJ just getting into pickup.

 

[wifehunter]

I'm done approaching women, anyway. With frame, you don't have to. If you're 'the prize', they should be approaching you. If not, don't bother, go work on yourself.

 

[Reykhel]

If you're 'the prize', they should be approaching you

How is that working out for you?

The secret art of "not approaching and having a healthy sex life".

I'm deathly curious. Please give some real life examples about how the art of not approaching women and
having a healthy sex life is working out for you.

Or maybe it's just horse****e.....

I wonder does it apply to other areas as well....

Don't apply for jobs and get the best paying jobs.....because after all....

....you are the prize. Businesses should know that.

 

[MatureDJ]

The problem with this is the attractive friend will figure out what the deal is and quickly walk away leaving you with fatty.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

How is that working out for you?

The secret art of "not approaching and having a healthy sex life".

I'm deathly curious. Please give some real life examples about how the art of not approaching women and
having a healthy sex life is working out for you.

Or maybe it's just horse****e.....

I wonder does it apply to other areas as well....

Don't apply for jobs and get the best paying jobs.....because after all....

....you are the prize. Businesses should know that.

It works for him as he drives his Uber.

 

[wifehunter]

The idea that having such high status/value that you no longer need to approach sounds great in theory, but being passive and dependent on it is a quick way to lose control over the type of women you actually want, especially if you want more than just a piece of ass.

Most men with money don't want women who are attracted to their bank statement.
Most musicians don't want a serious relationship with a slut groupie.
Most doctors or lawyers don't want a woman who is attracted to his job title.

There are a lot of men who don't want the women that their status attracts.

Approaching gives you better control over what you want, rather than what someone else wants.

It's not being passive. It's knowing where to put your time, strength, and energy. Not in women.

Not a theory:

"Do not give your strength to women, Or your ways to that which destroys kings."

- Proverbs 31:3 (NASB)

 

[machoMax]

I don't mean that literally.

If you see a beautiful girl with a group of other girls, don't approach her. Instead, approach the less beautiful one or the fat one. Strike interest and conversation with her and completely ignore the beautiful girl.

9 times out of 10, she will feel a massive blow to her ego and will start trying to get your attention.

Yes, that's how stuff work.

 

[MillionBillionaire]

It doesn't bother me that you think that because I don't pander to strangers for approval, most especially to those who derail threads by insulting people for their own amusement. Grow up.

I wasn't "de-railing" by "insulting" anyone. What is being described in the o.p is legit pickup theory, and that is a fact. You are also just getting into pickup,.. witch is also a fact.

So NO.... YOU! grow up.

 

[Urbanyst]

This "hit on the fat/ugly friend" technique can be found in PUA books published in the 80's.

 

[Urbanyst]

That doesn't mean socializing is a dated concept, which is all it really is.

Yeah, I was just trying to say in a funny way that the "hit on the fat/ugly friend" technique is not news and most guys already know about it.

 

[nismo-4]

How is that working out for you?

The secret art of "not approaching and having a healthy sex life".

I'm deathly curious. Please give some real life examples about how the art of not approaching women and
having a healthy sex life is working out for you.

Or maybe it's just horse****e.....

I wonder does it apply to other areas as well....

Don't apply for jobs and get the best paying jobs.....because after all....

....you are the prize. Businesses should know that.

I say that all the time!

I can't invite us all over to play a Halo & Call of Duty marathon, and then we'll have the LA Lakers cheerleaders come knocking on our door delivering pepperoni pizzas and wanting to suck all our dix before beginning our Mario Kart tournament 7 hours later.

None of us here are celebs AKA A-list movie stars and high profile athletes. Not even rich business owners or bodybuilders.

Hey, you gotta go out and get it. Don't apply for jobs, don't expect Google to offer you a 6-figure job a month down the line.

Ignoring girls only works if she's got a high interest level in you. Otherwise, she'll walk off knowing you won't be her new fan or orbiter. This OP is ok, but variables include what the HB 10 needs i.e. new betas (orbiters, fans, etc.) a LTR, Sex, etc. It's good to ignore a HB10 but what if she only sees you as an orbiter or friend? You won't be alpha, just useless or invisible.

She knows how to tap into social media for attention. Online dating too. Don't join her pool of fans.

 

[Mike32ct]

Just approach the group and see which one (if any) is most receptive to you. Then focus on her. Let them "self select."

I've heard the theory about ignoring the hot one many times. But, unless SuperChad/Tyrone approaches, I just can't see where the hottie will even care if the fattie gets approached. At best, hottie will continue texting away and talking with her other friends. At worst, she will assume that you aren't on her level because you are approaching much less attractive women. Plus, some other sausage will move in on the hottie while you are talking to the "nottie."